Home Alarm

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Frnc
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Re: Home Alarm

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Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:57 am
Frnc wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:32 am Definitely get one anyway, they are a deterrent. You definitely want an outside box so burglars know you are alarmed. I had one fitted 25 years ago, and it's still going strong, touch wood. I had the back about 2 years ago to adjust it so I could leave by the back door, when I go out on my bike. I also got them to quote for a couple of cameras, but it was a bit expensive (£985). That was for IP cameras, 5 megapixels, and a recorder.

They are only any use (alarms) if you have good neighbours ..

There are now modules that you add to the bell outputs com ports of the panel which will send you a push notification via WiFi or GSM depending upon device to let you know it's activated .. one of our clubs has a funky system I can use my phone to check status arm and disarm etc
Opinions vary. I've seen advice from police, surveys of burglars etc. I just tried to find the survey and stumbled on some research by a criminologist that reckons alarms actually increase your risk. It says the best deterrent is the WIDE security combination - Window locks, Indoor lights on a timer, Door double or deadlocks and External lights on a timer or sensor.
I don't have a timer indoors, but there would always be a light on if there was no one in when it was dark. I have deadlocks and external motion lights.

Dwellings with the WIDE security combination are 49 times more protected from burglary than those with no security.

https://www.ntu.ac.uk/about-us/news/new ... st-at-risk
ForgeCorvus
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Re: Home Alarm

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Face it, they want in they'll get in.
Alarms, locks, lights, cameras, etc just persuade them to go somewhere easier.

Just having closed gates on your path and drive make you less likely to get 'done over'
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Yorkshire Andy
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Re: Home Alarm

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ForgeCorvus wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:07 pm Face it, they want in they'll get in.
Alarms, locks, lights, cameras, etc just persuade them to go somewhere easier.

Just having closed gates on your path and drive make you less likely to get 'done over'

Yep they don't like feeling trapped spring closer on the front gate and a auto latch clunk click hard to make a quick get away if disturbed
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong ;)

Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
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Re: Home Alarm

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Frnc wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:59 pm
Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:57 am
Frnc wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:32 am Definitely get one anyway, they are a deterrent. You definitely want an outside box so burglars know you are alarmed. I had one fitted 25 years ago, and it's still going strong, touch wood. I had the back about 2 years ago to adjust it so I could leave by the back door, when I go out on my bike. I also got them to quote for a couple of cameras, but it was a bit expensive (£985). That was for IP cameras, 5 megapixels, and a recorder.

They are only any use (alarms) if you have good neighbours ..

There are now modules that you add to the bell outputs com ports of the panel which will send you a push notification via WiFi or GSM depending upon device to let you know it's activated .. one of our clubs has a funky system I can use my phone to check status arm and disarm etc
Opinions vary. I've seen advice from police, surveys of burglars etc. I just tried to find the survey and stumbled on some research by a criminologist that reckons alarms actually increase your risk. It says the best deterrent is the WIDE security combination - Window locks, Indoor lights on a timer, Door double or deadlocks and External lights on a timer or sensor.
I don't have a timer indoors, but there would always be a light on if there was no one in when it was dark. I have deadlocks and external motion lights.

Dwellings with the WIDE security combination are 49 times more protected from burglary than those with no security.

https://www.ntu.ac.uk/about-us/news/new ... st-at-risk
Best deterrent is a dog. Burglars don't know whether the barking is from an excited labrador that thinks all visitors are there specifically to see him or a rottweiler with piles that want to chew everyones legs off.
I'd dearly love to have a dog but I'm terribly allergic to them. I could have a goldfish but I don't think that would deter many people.
Frnc
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Re: Home Alarm

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korolev wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:05 pm
Frnc wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:59 pm
Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:57 am


They are only any use (alarms) if you have good neighbours ..

There are now modules that you add to the bell outputs com ports of the panel which will send you a push notification via WiFi or GSM depending upon device to let you know it's activated .. one of our clubs has a funky system I can use my phone to check status arm and disarm etc
Opinions vary. I've seen advice from police, surveys of burglars etc. I just tried to find the survey and stumbled on some research by a criminologist that reckons alarms actually increase your risk. It says the best deterrent is the WIDE security combination - Window locks, Indoor lights on a timer, Door double or deadlocks and External lights on a timer or sensor.
I don't have a timer indoors, but there would always be a light on if there was no one in when it was dark. I have deadlocks and external motion lights.

Dwellings with the WIDE security combination are 49 times more protected from burglary than those with no security.

https://www.ntu.ac.uk/about-us/news/new ... st-at-risk
Best deterrent is a dog. Burglars don't know whether the barking is from an excited labrador that thinks all visitors are there specifically to see him or a rottweiler with piles that want to chew everyones legs off.
I'd dearly love to have a dog but I'm terribly allergic to them. I could have a goldfish but I don't think that would deter many people.
Not a fan of dogs, or dog owners that don't supervise their dogs in public places, but let them run around and don't even keep eyes on them, so they are free to bite people. It should be illegal. There should be special parks where dog owners can pay to let them run around, and if they bite each other, or other owners, tough.
ForgeCorvus
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Re: Home Alarm

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korolev wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:05 pm
Frnc wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:59 pm
Yorkshire Andy wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:57 am


They are only any use (alarms) if you have good neighbours ..

There are now modules that you add to the bell outputs com ports of the panel which will send you a push notification via WiFi or GSM depending upon device to let you know it's activated .. one of our clubs has a funky system I can use my phone to check status arm and disarm etc
Opinions vary. I've seen advice from police, surveys of burglars etc. I just tried to find the survey and stumbled on some research by a criminologist that reckons alarms actually increase your risk. It says the best deterrent is the WIDE security combination - Window locks, Indoor lights on a timer, Door double or deadlocks and External lights on a timer or sensor.
I don't have a timer indoors, but there would always be a light on if there was no one in when it was dark. I have deadlocks and external motion lights.

Dwellings with the WIDE security combination are 49 times more protected from burglary than those with no security.

https://www.ntu.ac.uk/about-us/news/new ... st-at-risk
Best deterrent is a dog. Burglars don't know whether the barking is from an excited labrador that thinks all visitors are there specifically to see him or a rottweiler with piles that want to chew everyones legs off.
I'd dearly love to have a dog but I'm terribly allergic to them. I could have a goldfish but I don't think that would deter many people.
I'm told the labradoodle was bred to have low dander for use as guidedogs in households with allergies, that low shedding coat is from the poodle parent...... Have you tried hanging out with a poodle or poodle cross to see if it sets you off?
jennyjj01 wrote:"I'm not in the least bit worried because I'm prepared: Are you?"
Londonpreppy wrote: At its core all prepping is, is making sure you're not down to your last sheet of loo roll when you really need a poo.
"All Things Strive" Gd Tak 'Gar
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Re: Home Alarm

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ForgeCorvus wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:47 pm
korolev wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:05 pm
Frnc wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:59 pm

Opinions vary. I've seen advice from police, surveys of burglars etc. I just tried to find the survey and stumbled on some research by a criminologist that reckons alarms actually increase your risk. It says the best deterrent is the WIDE security combination - Window locks, Indoor lights on a timer, Door double or deadlocks and External lights on a timer or sensor.
I don't have a timer indoors, but there would always be a light on if there was no one in when it was dark. I have deadlocks and external motion lights.

Dwellings with the WIDE security combination are 49 times more protected from burglary than those with no security.

https://www.ntu.ac.uk/about-us/news/new ... st-at-risk
Best deterrent is a dog. Burglars don't know whether the barking is from an excited labrador that thinks all visitors are there specifically to see him or a rottweiler with piles that want to chew everyones legs off.
I'd dearly love to have a dog but I'm terribly allergic to them. I could have a goldfish but I don't think that would deter many people.
I'm told the labradoodle was bred to have low dander for use as guidedogs in households with allergies, that low shedding coat is from the poodle parent...... Have you tried hanging out with a poodle or poodle cross to see if it sets you off?
It's the saliva that I get allergic to
ForgeCorvus
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Re: Home Alarm

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korolev wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:57 pm
ForgeCorvus wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:47 pm
korolev wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:05 pm

Best deterrent is a dog. Burglars don't know whether the barking is from an excited labrador that thinks all visitors are there specifically to see him or a rottweiler with piles that want to chew everyones legs off.
I'd dearly love to have a dog but I'm terribly allergic to them. I could have a goldfish but I don't think that would deter many people.
I'm told the labradoodle was bred to have low dander for use as guidedogs in households with allergies, that low shedding coat is from the poodle parent...... Have you tried hanging out with a poodle or poodle cross to see if it sets you off?
It's the saliva that I get allergic to
OK, thats a new one on me....... It must be horrible trying to explain to people that you're not a psycho and you do like dogs but they can't come and say "hello" for health reasons.
jennyjj01 wrote:"I'm not in the least bit worried because I'm prepared: Are you?"
Londonpreppy wrote: At its core all prepping is, is making sure you're not down to your last sheet of loo roll when you really need a poo.
"All Things Strive" Gd Tak 'Gar
grenfell
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Our neighbour has dogs and they bark at everything , me if I'm in my garden and I'm sure at leaves and the sky too. They also have a gravel drive , metal gates and fence to the front and cameras. I've got an alarm box that's just for show and a couple of working cameras to the front. We both have or rather had a transit van , now it's only me who has one.
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Re: Home Alarm

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I have 2 sheepdogs. And a gravel drive. Both perfect deterrents! :mrgreen:
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