Post SHTF Suicides

[itsybitsy]

If you want to buy a good straightforward book on effective herbal medicines the best starting point is "Bartrams Encyclopedia of Herbal Medicine". It should be in every bug-out box.

Just ordered one, thanks.

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And me, thanks for the tip.

[buttystella]

strangely enough i think older people born in the forties and like me the fifties remember how it was before central heating, gizmoes, fancy imported foods, cars, etc became common-place, will be the least likely to take their own life. We managed even if some of the kids on our street had to play outside bare footed due to lack of shoes and food was always a problem. Everyone just got on with it and looking back my parents endured worse and likewise their parents. In effect we would be just reverting to how things used to be with the knowledge of how things are this good and there will be the problem. The only time i would contemplate the idea is if i was in so much pain and little chance of pulling through.

[tigs]

strangely enough i think older people born in the forties and like me the fifties remember how it was before central heating, gizmoes, fancy imported foods, cars, etc became common-place, will be the least likely to take their own life. We managed even if some of the kids on our street had to play outside bare footed due to lack of shoes and food was always a problem. Everyone just got on with it and looking back my parents endured worse and likewise their parents. In effect we would be just reverting to how things used to be with the knowledge of how things are this good and there will be the problem. The only time i would contemplate the idea is if i was in so much pain and little chance of pulling through.

i think a lot of people brought up in the 70's can remember no central heating , shortages , power cuts and rubbish piling up in the streets

[Triple_sod]

It’s definitely true that generally the higher the standard of living people are used to the lower they’re threshold to hardship.

I’ve said it before as well, regardless of whether we see some Teotwawki event or not, a lot of people live well above they’re means and eventually the carts gunna tip, just simple maths.

So could well be the case that my generation and certainly the one after, actually have a more modest lifestyle.

Always puts me in mind of one of those old aristocrats in the rambling old stately home, cobwebs and damp patches and fond memories of when the fountains worked…

[Hardulph]

We had tin bath in front of the fire, outside toilets, no central heating, paraffin lamps in the outside loo to stop it freezing up in winter. Chamber pot under the bed. Mum bottled home grown produce and salted beans as we didn't own a freezer. Don't think we had a telephone until about '76 and that was a party line. Think our generation much more able to cope without.

[jansman]

We had tin bath in front of the fire, outside toilets, no central heating, paraffin lamps in the outside loo to stop it freezing up in winter. Chamber pot under the bed. Mum bottled home grown produce and salted beans as we didn't own a freezer. Don't think we had a telephone until about '76 and that was a party line. Think our generation much more able to cope without.

Tin bath, tin bath! You were lucky we had a water butt
No , joking aside you are right. Brought up in the sixties and seventies no one had much where I lived. It does make you more resilient I think.

We have a wiring problem at the moment and two lights are not working. I have rigged up a back up system( pretty good actually) and it will all be sorted soon. If you hear my Daughters whinging about it well... But this is the generation who have always had the internet. Rhey find the idea of a phone box inconceivable!

[Triple_sod]

Rhey find the idea of a phone box inconceivable!

Too right, usually have to wedge the door open due to the heady aroma of eau de urine and 9 times out of 10 some scrote’s smashed the receiver anyway.

[Triple_sod]

I'd think people killing themselves would be far better all around than organised religion gaining power in a shtf. Organised religion is the greatest evil of them all. Nothing wrong with believing in god, but I'd be fearful of any religion after a shtf. Convert or die and I'm right and you are wrong comes up with out rule of law or when people believe god is talking to them/guiding them.

To be fair though mate you say that but is government any better?

I mean be a pain in the arse having to bow down to Bob from down the road as the second coming of Christ but you ought to see my last tax bill!

[Plymtom]

To be fair though mate you say that but is government any better?

Fair point, though it's not traditional to thank them for all the nice stuff, and is to blame them for all the bad shit, people do that to deities, (thank and not blame) not saying they shouldn't have gods or godesses, but I have great trouble accepting anyone being their representative and ruling others like Metatron said.

[bigdan]

i think there will be an enormous natural die off in the first month anyway, most people have not the first idea how to purify drinking water or make a fire . when the last cans have left the shelves of asda it will only take three weeks . very few will know how to replenish supplies from the wild, and will make frenzied efforts to help themselves to whatever any one who had the forsight to prep has, if they can find them. we now live in a society where from the cradle to the grave we are looked after. we are pretty pampered in this country. i believe its a been a running ploy since the first days of the empire and certainly since 1947 and the advent of the welfare state. we as a nation have been treated as cannon and factory fodder by succesive monarchs and governments.
if theres a war then over the top you go lads!! dont question it , its your duty !! if you do question it then youll be shot. when theres peace, then into the factories ,mines and cotton mills lads and live your short lives lining our pockets.
yes the country changed after the war and we got a health care system and council houses, now people generally wont put their head above the parapet and be counted because the powers that be dont want it. its been bred into us to conform. part of that conforming has been not to question and to rely heavily on the state for everything. very long winded and slightly off topic iv had a bit of a rant , but the above is the main reason we will have a huge die off and little suicide.