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I was just wondering what you guys are doing regarding self defence.
Personally I have decided to start aikido as its useful for disarming people and using their strength against them.
Are there any other things I could do?
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David B
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I think avoiding fights altogether is the best technique "the art of fighting without fighting"eunosben wrote:I have decided to start aikido as its useful for disarming people and using their strength against them.
I did a little martial arts as a teenager, and think fancy kicks are not much use in a real fight, unless you are an expert.
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Been doing some form of martial art most of my life (though not lately) and I have to say ju-jitsu/judo/akido have to be up there with my favourites. And in a SHTF scenario id say they would be the most effective as you dont have to be a man mountain for it to be effective. This was also born out by that chap in Argentina who survived that countries economic calamaties. (I forget the guys name, someone here might back me up with this) He said that Judo was definatly the one he felt was most useful as encounters were more grapple orientated than a stand up fight.
"A mind without purpose will walk dark places"
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bigdan
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i did jujitsu as part of my job for 7yrs, sometimes several times a day, on real people , some very angry and frustrated ,some mentally ill and psychotic. its a fantastic self defence and to a certain extent offensive art. however do not rely on martial arts to get you out of the poo. real fighting never goes to plan , the dojo will not and cannot teach you how to deal with someone in a real life situation. only experience will do that.
most real fights end up on the floor thats true but if your on your own thats not where you,d want to be if there are several of them. most sensei say the cliche stuff like "use their strength against them " "and you have to win the fight in your own mind before the contact starts", unfortunately the zombie wont have read the script and will try his best to bite your ear off.!!! ok i do sound a bit cynical but have been involved in hundreds of incidents and martial arts will only work one to one .
the real value of learning jujitsu is that it makes you feel ten foot tall and bullet proof and having the right mindset is much more important than whether you can do a spinning backfist !! i guess there is some truth in winning the fight before you engage, but iv now given up the kevlar and am getting old so would rather nrely on something that goes bang
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most real fights end up on the floor thats true but if your on your own thats not where you,d want to be if there are several of them. most sensei say the cliche stuff like "use their strength against them " "and you have to win the fight in your own mind before the contact starts", unfortunately the zombie wont have read the script and will try his best to bite your ear off.!!! ok i do sound a bit cynical but have been involved in hundreds of incidents and martial arts will only work one to one .
the real value of learning jujitsu is that it makes you feel ten foot tall and bullet proof and having the right mindset is much more important than whether you can do a spinning backfist !! i guess there is some truth in winning the fight before you engage, but iv now given up the kevlar and am getting old so would rather nrely on something that goes bang
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eunosben
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Fair point tbh I would generally avoid people in a SHTF situation but sometimes that isnt always possible and being a lover not a fighter I need to get some skills under my arm. (im good with a rifle but thats pointless over here)
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Not done anything yet, apart from a really daft "alternative" self defence course in London years ago (examples: be a flame, so he can't get hold of you. Tell him you're menstruating. Mad.). I've got some "self protection" courses booked via the local authority this year, we'll see whats what.
I like the sound of having a staff, and using that (like Teal'c in Stargate )
Never been in a fight - but I've been in places where one's about to start, and I know that, even though my heart's pounding, I'll stand up and not run away. Thats a start, I guess.
I like the sound of having a staff, and using that (like Teal'c in Stargate
)Never been in a fight - but I've been in places where one's about to start, and I know that, even though my heart's pounding, I'll stand up and not run away. Thats a start, I guess.
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because i work with people with learning dificulties, work requires us every 2 years to do, a break away technique course , a very basic judo type course, thankfully incidents are rare, though i dont think de-escalation techniques would work if TSHTF on the local populace
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MickyP
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Running away might not be good for the ego but in a lot of cases is the safer option and a lot more effective than 90% of the martial art systems that are around. The best form of self defence is to avoid the conflict in the first place, an untrained thug with a knife can, and most probably would, beat a large proportion of trained martial artists.
If you are going to look at martial arts for self defence purposes then you need to choose one that trains as realistically as is possible, plenty of sparring and resistance with some contact to get you used to being hit. Judo, boxing, and muay thai, and some others, fit most of that criteria. Leave the stephan seagal and bruce lee stuff for the movies where it belongs, they may or may not have been good fighters but what you see them do in the movies is not what will happen in a fight
A good place to look for opinion on various martial arts from a self defence point of view is a website called Bullshido, it has its own bias towards grappling but you will get a fairly honest opinion of the merits and faults of most systems.
If you are going to look at martial arts for self defence purposes then you need to choose one that trains as realistically as is possible, plenty of sparring and resistance with some contact to get you used to being hit. Judo, boxing, and muay thai, and some others, fit most of that criteria. Leave the stephan seagal and bruce lee stuff for the movies where it belongs, they may or may not have been good fighters but what you see them do in the movies is not what will happen in a fight
A good place to look for opinion on various martial arts from a self defence point of view is a website called Bullshido, it has its own bias towards grappling but you will get a fairly honest opinion of the merits and faults of most systems.
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Accidentman
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The best defence is simply to not be in a fight in the first place.
I spent 3 years as a Royal Military Policeman and followed that by 6 months in Colchester Military Prison (It was a misunderstanding), and trust me, you do not want to be a copper in prison.
Flight is better than fight, but if fight is a must, then Judo or Akido are best.
Followed by having a big knife in one hand and a hammer in the other.
I spent 3 years as a Royal Military Policeman and followed that by 6 months in Colchester Military Prison (It was a misunderstanding), and trust me, you do not want to be a copper in prison.
Flight is better than fight, but if fight is a must, then Judo or Akido are best.
Followed by having a big knife in one hand and a hammer in the other.
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Panther
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Hi eunosben,
Aikido is a great martial art to take up but please don't have any hopes that you'll be able to successfully defend yourself in a few months time. It takes many years to become proficient. No one martial art has a monopoly of all the best techniques, so once you've been doing Aikido for a year or two also look around at other disciplines. As has already been said jujitsu is another excellent martial art. You might also like to consider Krav Maga or some of the styles of Kung Fu; they all have worthwhile techniques. Are there any clubs or instructors offering a "Street Style" self defense course in your area? If so that might be worth looking into. Such courses often contain a handful of simple but very effective moves and techniques.
In the meantime one thing you can do is, wherever you are, start to increase your awareness of everything going on around you. This should be done in a relaxed way so that those with you don't notice you're doing it.
Aikido is a great martial art to take up but please don't have any hopes that you'll be able to successfully defend yourself in a few months time. It takes many years to become proficient. No one martial art has a monopoly of all the best techniques, so once you've been doing Aikido for a year or two also look around at other disciplines. As has already been said jujitsu is another excellent martial art. You might also like to consider Krav Maga or some of the styles of Kung Fu; they all have worthwhile techniques. Are there any clubs or instructors offering a "Street Style" self defense course in your area? If so that might be worth looking into. Such courses often contain a handful of simple but very effective moves and techniques.
In the meantime one thing you can do is, wherever you are, start to increase your awareness of everything going on around you. This should be done in a relaxed way so that those with you don't notice you're doing it.