My longest prep

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TomW
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My longest prep

Post by TomW »

Hi all , long time member and I used to post quite a bit but I dropped to just checking in quite a while ago and even that only infrequently.
Back when I was active however, I looked at what I felt the biggest prep I could do was and settled on medical knowledge. While in my experience those from the medical field will always want to help however they can, you can’t guarantee finding one when needed. By a fortuitous turn of events I switched jobs to the ambulance service and ultimately qualified as a paramedic. Since then I have continued to learn what I can about emergency and urgent healthcare and what the options are when there is nowhere to go next.

I would recommend it to all as a great career though it will damage you physically and mentally. I feel I am now in a position to share the knowledge I have so if you have any questions I shall do my best to answer them.

First recommendation is training. First aid at work is a great start and is likely to be funded by your employer. It is far more likely to be of benefit to you and your family and will still stand you in good stead in the worst times. The FREC courses are also good and well regarded. If you have an interest in working as a first aider they are a good way forward but unlikely to be valued by an employer outside of this. At the very least a 1 day course will get you the basic knowledge to help your family and friends for what I believe is a pretty reasonable cost.

Catastrophic haemorrhage. Big topic which has been constantly evolving through history and even more so since 9/11 and has really accelerated with Ukraine. Tourniquets have a place for sure and tourniquet conversion is now a thing. But good bandaging and wound packing are also important skills. Biggest thing, don’t buy tq off cheap sites like Temu. You might get a good one but you won’t know until you need it which is a pretty crap time to find out it’s junk! Also a bleed control tq is not the same as those used for blood tests or cannulation, they stop venous flow, a ‘proper’ tq has to stop arterial flow which is higher pressure and in stronger pipes so to speak 😂.

Possibly the biggest fallacy I have seen over the years is the need for stocking antibiotics as ‘even a small cut can turn septic and kill you!’ Yes, but… good hygiene and a generally healthy body are far far more important. Think about how many cuts you have had over the years that haven’t killed you and not needed antibiotics… in the worst case scenario hygiene may be more challenging so concentrate on it and stock some soap :D

So ask away, here, new topic or dm. Can’t guarantee I will have all the answers but I shall try :)
jennyjj01
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Re: My longest prep

Post by jennyjj01 »

I'm too long in the tooth to train as a paramedic. But can I pop in the suggestion that getting a first aid training course is a high value prep, not just for TEOTWAWKI. I recently had a 3 dayer through employer, but was already looking to buy one.
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Peter
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Re: My longest prep

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We both did a Red Cross course through Scouts but that was over 30 years ago, some things you don’t forget
but over time you loose confidence in your abilities.
Yorkshire Andy
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Re: My longest prep

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Peter wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 11:03 am We both did a Red Cross course through Scouts but that was over 30 years ago, some things you don’t forget
but over time you loose confidence in your abilities.
And advice changes years back it was 5 compressions to 2 breaths

More recent medical knowledge worked out it's no good as you don't even get the blood pressure high enough to start circulating blood currently it's 30 compressions at 2 per second to 2 breaths first 15 just prime the heart and get the pressure up enough to start going round
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Peter
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Re: My longest prep

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Yorkshire Andy wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 6:57 pm
Peter wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 11:03 am We both did a Red Cross course through Scouts but that was over 30 years ago, some things you don’t forget
but over time you loose confidence in your abilities.
And advice changes years back it was 5 compressions to 2 breaths

More recent medical knowledge worked out it's no good as you don't even get the blood pressure high enough to start circulating blood currently it's 30 compressions at 2 per second to 2 breaths first 15 just prime the heart and get the pressure up enough to start going round
Thanks Andy it’s noted.
ForgeCorvus
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Re: My longest prep

Post by ForgeCorvus »

I recently did my FAFW..... Well, sort of.
I did it a few years back but my ticket had lapsed so I couldn't do the one day refresher and I thought I'd have to do the full three day job...... The Red Cross now does a two day "speed run" for people in my situation, so I booked that and work paid for it.

30 compressions to 2 breaths and keep cycling...... They ain't dead until a professional says they're dead

But we got taught a few things I didn't know, Tk's, Haemostatics, Log-rolling and how to work CPR three handed.

So, guess who got work to spring for a Tk?...... And bought a couple for myself (2 is1 after all)
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Mad Scientist
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Re: My longest prep

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I was a first aider in my previous job for many years and I did courses before that.I can honestly say it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done. Even if you’re injured you can tell someone else what to do. A small package of folded mixed bandages/gauzes will cover most things and can be carried anywhere. You’d be surprised at the number of professional people who don’t know first aid. We were clubbing in Stroud one evening and a woman had lost consciousness. The two security guards who attended her were worse than useless! Absolutely shocking, no knowledge whatsoever and refused to listen to me. After prodding her and asking if she was ok for 20 minutes, they dragged away like a prisoner (still unconscious) to a back room and an ambulance arrived …eventually. Aaaaargh!!!! Why aren’t these people trained???