The Government checklist....... UKP version

[grenfell]

Just a mention about cooking pots that might or might not be useful or interesting even if it is such a small factor . I've mentioned a while ago that I re-enact and we have several cast iron pots or cauldrons. We stopped using them because one of our members had a problem with iron in her diet , ironically she was the group cook at the time too. We turned to using brass pans . One advantage there is that copper or copper alloy pots are better at controlling bacteria by all accounts from what I've read , certainly better than stainless steel . Not sure how titanium fairs in this regard.

The reason titanium is used is because it's light. You can get aluminium cheaper though. I'm not sure how aluminium would fare over a wood fire. Should be ok, it's ok on a gas stove. But if you use it a lot, it's supposed to have some health isssue.

I have used aluminium on wood fires and it worked fine. I didn't mention it earlier assuming most had heard of the supposed health issue. I'm not really sure just how much of an issue it is . Less common nowadays is enameled pots and pans although I'm not sure why , perhaps because they can chip but if nothing else would be a factor then they would probably be my choice although in the scenario that's being looked at here it's probably whatever is at hand...

[Kiwififer]

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What’s everyone’s POV on these?

[Frnc]

Just a mention about cooking pots that might or might not be useful or interesting even if it is such a small factor . I've mentioned a while ago that I re-enact and we have several cast iron pots or cauldrons. We stopped using them because one of our members had a problem with iron in her diet , ironically she was the group cook at the time too. We turned to using brass pans . One advantage there is that copper or copper alloy pots are better at controlling bacteria by all accounts from what I've read , certainly better than stainless steel . Not sure how titanium fairs in this regard.

The reason titanium is used is because it's light. You can get aluminium cheaper though. I'm not sure how aluminium would fare over a wood fire. Should be ok, it's ok on a gas stove. But if you use it a lot, it's supposed to have some health isssue.

I have used aluminium on wood fires and it worked fine. I didn't mention it earlier assuming most had heard of the supposed health issue. I'm not really sure just how much of an issue it is . Less common nowadays is enameled pots and pans although I'm not sure why , perhaps because they can chip but if nothing else would be a factor then they would probably be my choice although in the scenario that's being looked at here it's probably whatever is at hand...

Enamelled mugs etc are steel, so, heavy in a bugout situation. Also hot to touch, if you fill it with hot water. Everyone went plastic decades ago. My pot is acutally my mug and my plate and bowl, but the wire handles will cool quickly because they are so thin.

[grenfell]

Ah yes , gaffer tape on the rim keeps you from burning your lips...

[Frnc]

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What’s everyone’s POV on these?

For cooking at home on a camping stove with a big enough burner, for 1-3 people, great. For bugging out for one person, overkill.

[mcprepper]

The government list is a good starting point then I’d add to it with:
* matches/lighters/ferro rods
* bin bags
* alcohol for drinking/cleaning/disinfecting/bartering
* chocolate (and plenty of it) for my mental health
* extra toilet rolls
* basic painkillers - paracetamol/ibuprofen/aspirin
* feminine hygiene products
* a fire extinguisher
* water purification tablets/filter
* some kind of personal protection (I’ll leave that to your imagination)
This is where I started and then built up from there thinking longer term …

[ForgeCorvus]

One of the reasons I suggest Bistro-stoves to the Prep-lite/Prep-new rather then any other type is the simple fact that you can just use your normal kitchen pans on them.
I wouldn't want to haul one around in a bug-out due to bulk and weight, but for SIP they're dependable and cheap

[Yorkshire Andy]

* a fire extinguisher

Make that several one on each floor minimum and a kitchen specific ABF multi foam or water mist + A BSI fire blanket ....

And it's not just shtf imo this should just be in place regardless saved my house about 1.5 years ago...

Bar big flood event I'd say House fire is one of the biggest risks /most severe risk most households face be it a electrical fault/ kids playing with matches/ a accident with a candle or bbq


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[jennyjj01]

By the way, how do people plan their meals?

Fairly repetitive routine:-
Breakfast, cereals or a few biscuits or some fruit
Lunches always light, such as teacakes, crumpets, scones, toast or 'packed lunch'

Monday: Wing it with something light, such as teacakes for brunch, random light evening meal, usually featuring eggs.
Tuesday: Chip night with some fish or meat product or pie from the freezer.
Wednesday: Packed Lunch or meal deal at work. Evening: one of the batch cooked meals from the freezer.
Thursday: Light lunch at the supermarket. For Tea, Something with spuds, mash or a pasta or rice meal with cooking sauce and usually chicken or mince.
Friday: Leftovers or something done with a pork steak. Or a stock rotating prepper meal.
Saturday: Stirfry or wraps or something with bread.
Sunday: Substantial meat and two veg.

We buy little fresh fruit or veg and waste none. We don't have the classic healthy diet, but we are not in bad shape.

We'd be likely to maintain a similar routine in bad times, just pivoting to long life equivalents.

[Yorkshire Andy]

By the way, how do people plan their meals?

Fairly repetitive routine:-
Breakfast, cereals or a few biscuits or some fruit
Lunches always light, such as teacakes, crumpets, scones, toast or 'packed lunch'

Monday: Wing it with something light, such as teacakes for brunch, random light evening meal, usually featuring eggs.
Tuesday: Chip night with some fish or meat product or pie from the freezer.
Wednesday: Packed Lunch or meal deal at work. Evening: one of the batch cooked meals from the freezer.
Thursday: Light lunch at the supermarket. For Tea, Something with spuds, mash or a pasta or rice meal with cooking sauce and usually chicken or mince.
Friday: Leftovers or something done with a pork steak. Or a stock rotating prepper meal.
Saturday: Stirfry or wraps or something with bread.
Sunday: Substantial meat and two veg.

We buy little fresh fruit or veg and waste none. We don't have the classic healthy diet, but we are not in bad shape.

We'd be likely to maintain a similar routine in bad times, just pivoting to long life equivalents.

Suppose shtf you might want a bigger breakfast there's a reason our grandparents had a full English cooked in dripping in the morning and didnt weigh 20 stone..... hard manual labour in the cold from clocking on to home time .. shtf if your working hard you need fuel from the off imo of course