jansman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:20 pmWith all this No Plastic/Local Food/ Veganuary/Kiss The Rainforests Arse/No Carbon Emissions, I find Vegan products to be something of a contradiction in terms.
kissing the rainforest's arse!
The contradiction in terms thing is absolutely true: I'm vegetarian, and I've recently discovered I'm an environmentalist first, which I hadn't suspected. Years ago, to avoid leather, veggies like me would use plastic - I'm thinking particularly of handbags here. I used to buy one every 2 -3 years, when they literally fell to bits. The last handbag I bought was leather - just plain black leather - and I expect it to last a good deal longer than 2 - 3 years. Specifically bought to kiss said rainforest's arse
I've also just bought a leather armchair and footstool - from a charity shop, £145, yay! - for my posture, and for ease of cleaning.
I have no beef ( see what I did there?
) with a plant based diet. Hey! I grow and eat LOTS of vegetables and salads. But I eat meat. My go to is local game. I shoot and ( we) eat pigeons, rabbits , partridge and pheasant aplenty. At this point in time, that source of food is locally sustainable.
That sounds great to me! The concepts underlying "food miles" are much more important than vegetarianism, for me. I like the "beef" thing, by the way
I wonder if the ethical meat movement will get its act together - there are a lot more small businesses nowadays that work with meat and animal products, they seem to be completely unrepresented in the public debate at the moment.
ETA: I'd like to see some small businesses using more of the byproducts, like feathers.
This is from a preppers point of view, not an idealogical one. Right now, our First World can support unsustainable diets.
We can. But I don't think we should, and that *is* an ideological statement, sorry
. I wasn't thinking things through about the jackfruit or the banana blossom
But it's difficult. If we're going to get tropical imports, would I rather have them be flowers or veg? Veg, I think. I'd also like to see help given simultaneously to establish more sustainable trade and value-added practices (manufacturing at low-carbon levels?) in the area. But the issues are global: massive Chinese intervention in Africa for raw materials, for one thing. That slow slide to shtf is starting to accelerate, and it will need a lot of oomph to turn the tide. Sorry for the mixed metaphors
It sounds like the texture is brilliant (and that's not nothing in terms of veggie food) but as a sub for meat and fish etc, it's slightly dodgy nutritionally: less than 1% protein, sadly. I think jackfruit was a bit the same in terms of protein. But I could still get protein from nuts and whatnot - this sounds like it could be like those meaty mushrooms, yum yum. Let us know.
