Hi I have recently purchased a second hand Crossman 2250B .22 CO2 air rifle.
I have to say its the ideal little rifle its light and easy to handle and at close range 15-20 yards will easily dispatch a rabbit or smaller quarry game. so if food is in short supply you have this as a back up.
However you have to be aware of current laws and restrictions when using this as it is still classed as a firearm although no licence is required.
But registration is looking likely in Scotland with in the near future.
if shooting be safe and legal.
Keep the Larder Full
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Yorkshire Andy
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I'd rather go springer one less thing to stock (co2) or air precharge and a stirrup pump but a springer is mechanically simple
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Re: Keep the Larder Full
Thanks I picked it up for next to no money! Its a Nice light gun that my son can also use for plinking.
Yes agree cost of the CO2 is a bit painful and in the cold not the most reliable on performance.
I am fortunate I have also got a couple of Springers.
I was thinking of going down the PCP route, but you are looking at £350 + and the charging Kit either a bottle or pump, which is more expensive than most good 2nd hand Shotguns.
I guess the crosman is ok for occastional use, but has its drawbacks.
Yes agree cost of the CO2 is a bit painful and in the cold not the most reliable on performance.
I am fortunate I have also got a couple of Springers.
I was thinking of going down the PCP route, but you are looking at £350 + and the charging Kit either a bottle or pump, which is more expensive than most good 2nd hand Shotguns.
I guess the crosman is ok for occastional use, but has its drawbacks.
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poppypiesdad
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Not so , for it to be classed as a firearm it needs to be over 12ft/lbs, its an air rifle , and it would at most put out 8ft/lbs on a good day . And to get anything bigger than say a rat /squirrel, your going to have to be close , for info there are now 12g air caps that can be recharged and reused cant find a link , but they are out therescopemark wrote: However you have to be aware of current laws and restrictions when using this as it is still classed as a firearm although no licence is required
j
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Plan like its the last beer in the fridge.
Plan like its the last loaf on the shop shelves.
Plan like its the last beer in the fridge.
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Sorry PD airguns are classed as firearms, you're thinking of licensing above 12 foot pounds becomes section one, below doesn't need a license but is still considered a firearm these days.poppypiesdad wrote:Not so , for it to be classed as a firearm it needs to be over 12ft/lbs, its an air rifle , and it would at most put out 8ft/lbs on a good day . And to get anything bigger than say a rat /squirrel, your going to have to be close , for info there are now 12g air caps that can be recharged and reused cant find a link , but they are out there
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poppypiesdad
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I think youll find thats what I said ....
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Be Prepared.
Plan like its the last loaf on the shop shelves.
Plan like its the last beer in the fridge.
Plan like its the last loaf on the shop shelves.
Plan like its the last beer in the fridge.
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Carefulnow
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You can have all the fire arms which your legally allowed to have but during a disaster situation the human population will make quick work of any available wild life. Once all the food has gone they will be out in the countryside with spears etc.
You would be better putting your time and effort into learning how to trap & not necessarily maim or kill your prey. Livestock will be very rare in a disaster situation. Livestock isn't just necessary for meat but it is necessary for manure (fertilizer).
So lets say you manage to trap a couple of Rabbits. Put them in a cage each and try and get them to mate. Your have to learn a lot of animal husbandry so its best to start now than trying to learn though trial and error when doomsday happens. Then its a case of simply breeding enough until you can cull their numbers and make your losses back after a number of weeks.
You ideally want to start breeding Chickens, Rabbits, Tilapia Fish & Pygmy goats.
Chickens will give you Eggs, Meat and Feathers to make arrows out of.
Rabbits will give you Meat, Bone to grind & use in Soil or use as arrow heads and Fur to make clothing out of.
Tilapia Fish will give you Meat almost everyday if you build a big enough Aquaponics system.
Pygmy Goats will give you Milk which can be used to make Cream, Cheese & Butter.
If you simple things like Eggs, Milk and Fish/Rabbit Meat you would be considered rich in a doomsday situation.
To keep the larder full your best going the farming route because there won't be much to shoot at.
Think about it. If Ebola wipes out 90% of the human race who is going to keep plowing and tiling the soil? Rabbits are only so abundant because of humans. Same goes for Grey Foxes and Pigeons.
You would be better putting your time and effort into learning how to trap & not necessarily maim or kill your prey. Livestock will be very rare in a disaster situation. Livestock isn't just necessary for meat but it is necessary for manure (fertilizer).
So lets say you manage to trap a couple of Rabbits. Put them in a cage each and try and get them to mate. Your have to learn a lot of animal husbandry so its best to start now than trying to learn though trial and error when doomsday happens. Then its a case of simply breeding enough until you can cull their numbers and make your losses back after a number of weeks.
You ideally want to start breeding Chickens, Rabbits, Tilapia Fish & Pygmy goats.
Chickens will give you Eggs, Meat and Feathers to make arrows out of.
Rabbits will give you Meat, Bone to grind & use in Soil or use as arrow heads and Fur to make clothing out of.
Tilapia Fish will give you Meat almost everyday if you build a big enough Aquaponics system.
Pygmy Goats will give you Milk which can be used to make Cream, Cheese & Butter.
If you simple things like Eggs, Milk and Fish/Rabbit Meat you would be considered rich in a doomsday situation.
To keep the larder full your best going the farming route because there won't be much to shoot at.
Think about it. If Ebola wipes out 90% of the human race who is going to keep plowing and tiling the soil? Rabbits are only so abundant because of humans. Same goes for Grey Foxes and Pigeons.
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poppypiesdad wrote:I think youll find thats what I said ....
j
No mate honestly under 12 (rifle) and 6 foot pounds (pistol) are firearms too, that's why you can't buy them online and you have to have them sent to your local RFD, we don't have an FAC/SGC level shop in Plymouth but we do have several RFD's for sub limit airguns, airsoft, paintball etc, I don't think the armed response unit would force you to the ground for playing with nerf guns in a public place, but they do for anything which looks real or remotely like it, I don't know if there's a low foot poundage or velocity rating at which airguns cease to be firearms.
here's a clarifying link
http://www.airgunshooting.co.uk/expert- ... _1_1111764
I have a strategy, it's not written in stone, nor can it be, this scenario has too many variables, everything about it depends on those variables, being specific is not possible.