however portable propane appliances are not legally allowed to be used in domestic dwellings
What Preps are you doing this week
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Yorkshire Andy
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Re: What Preps are you doing this week
butane does have a high water content
hence it freezes in really cold weather hence caravaners switch to propane in winter
however portable propane appliances are not legally allowed to be used in domestic dwellings
however portable propane appliances are not legally allowed to be used in domestic dwellings
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong 
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Re: What Preps are you doing this week
This week added to my long term preps:
- Cleaning products
- UHT milk
- Orange cordial
Next projects I need to complete are:
1 - New fence up
2 - Make a clay oven, with BBQ and prep counter
3 - Raise the bank by the side of the house to reduce flooding risk.
- Cleaning products
- UHT milk
- Orange cordial
Next projects I need to complete are:
1 - New fence up
2 - Make a clay oven, with BBQ and prep counter
3 - Raise the bank by the side of the house to reduce flooding risk.
Fail to prepare, then prepare to fail.
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preppingsu
Re: What Preps are you doing this week
It hasn't got a BBQ or prep counter attached but it does have a smoker. Have a look here...external wrote:
Next projects I need to complete are:
2 - Make a clay oven, with BBQ and prep counter
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viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3832&hilit=Clay+oven
Re: What Preps are you doing this week
Got a couple of tins of veg and another tin of meat (not spam
) Doing happy dance as I know feel like I'm back on track
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Re: What Preps are you doing this week
Its a few weeks off from when I am likely to start but your post was what put the thought into my head last year.preppingsu wrote:It hasn't got a BBQ or prep counter attached but it does have a smoker. Have a look here...external wrote:
Next projects I need to complete are:
2 - Make a clay oven, with BBQ and prep counter
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viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3832&hilit=Clay+oven
I'll be looking at that when I start!!
Fail to prepare, then prepare to fail.
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Spiderwebb
Re: What Preps are you doing this week
Yorkshire Andy wrote:Spiderwebb wrote:
I gave the heater a test run last night and came across 2 unexpected things - (1) it was problematic to ignite, and (2) the whole of the downstairs smelt fairly soon after it did eventually ignite. It was nice a warm though!
I'm probably going to get someone round to check the heater over to be on the safe side (although not too impressed at the need to do so given it's new), but mindful it could be an over-reaction and maybe the smell is because it's new??
The problem getting ignition is probably me not following the procedure correctly, although I did read the manual (apologies fellow male's) but typically it was written by an engineer/HSE bod, neither thinking about end-user interpretation!!
Going to defer buying a stand-by 2nd bottle until I have a little more confidence - any help will be gratefully received.
will have probably be the surplus insulation and paint / storage oils/ dust burning off........
as for igniting problems is it sparking ok?
if it is im assuming you have taken the bottle on and off and got air into the gas line...
ideally in a well vented area purge it.... turn it to ignite and hold the knob down,,, for about 5 seconds upto about 10 (a few goes will let you work out how long it needs) then turn off for about a minute to let excess gas escape you will hear it and and obviously smell it this will probably need doing after turning the bottle off and storing the heater but its no real drama
from this point... the spark should ignite the pilot hold the knob in for a further 15-20 seconds or so this allows the Flame failure device to heat up (there's a capillary tube in the pilot flame which shuts the gas off if the heater blows out this needs to preheat to allow the gas to flow )
Just followed your advice and it did fire up easier. The "air in the line" theory of course makes perfect sense. Will try it every night for the next week to familiarise myself.
I was going to buy another for my workshop but concerned it may be too cold out there in winter for the butane. Would it be safe to change the regulator and run propane/patio gas?
Appreciate your help on this - many thanks.
Re: What Preps are you doing this week
Just slowly building up a supply of tinned and dried food, continuing with building up a supply of dried logs for the fire, and some more paraffin for the Tilley lamps in case of power cuts etc, batteries for torches etc.
Up in the wet South Lakeland
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Spiderwebb
Re: What Preps are you doing this week
Just bought a replacement extinguisher and Carbon Monoxide alarm.
My kitchen extinguisher was a disposable type and noticed an hour ago (whilst raiding the fridge!) it expired end-2013. Fire blanket still ok though
Minus 10 prepping points for me
Anyone got one of those escape ladders for getting out a first floor window?? I'm very tempted.
My kitchen extinguisher was a disposable type and noticed an hour ago (whilst raiding the fridge!) it expired end-2013. Fire blanket still ok though
Minus 10 prepping points for me
Anyone got one of those escape ladders for getting out a first floor window?? I'm very tempted.
Re: What Preps are you doing this week
My cousin has oneSpiderwebb wrote:Just bought a replacement extinguisher and Carbon Monoxide alarm.
My kitchen extinguisher was a disposable type and noticed an hour ago (whilst raiding the fridge!) it expired end-2013. Fire blanket still ok though
Minus 10 prepping points for me
Anyone got one of those escape ladders for getting out a first floor window?? I'm very tempted.
If you get one you need to make sure the windows extend open ENOUGH for you to get out. There are special double glazing windows that do this. If you do install. PRACTICE, cos it's not easy
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Yorkshire Andy
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Re: What Preps are you doing this week
Spiderwebb wrote:Just bought a replacement extinguisher and Carbon Monoxide alarm.
My kitchen extinguisher was a disposable type and noticed an hour ago (whilst raiding the fridge!) it expired end-2013. Fire blanket still ok though
Minus 10 prepping points for me
Anyone got one of those escape ladders for getting out a first floor window?? I'm very tempted.
read the ratings label on the fire it will tell you what you can use.....
i have a delohngi (spl) in our workshop that i run on propane the shop even swapped over regulators (well cut the butane one off and gave me the propane one to fit myself so i couldnt sue them if it leaked....
this might be a cheaper more storable option
http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/4 ... eater.html
What extinguisher you bought?
ive been chatting to a very nice man yesterday (works fire extinguisher agent)
Apparently Dry powder is been withdrawn from general use due to the Mess it makes costing insurance companies more than the fire damage and only to be used in essential / critical areas / areas of extreme cold.. such as HGV's on the trailers and outside fuel storage areas eg LPG storage / petrol stations.. ..
http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/extinguishers
In fact the British Standard does not allow powder extinguishers in offices and living accommodations any longer. The clean up after applying a powder extinguisher is also very difficult and the powder causes damage to soft furnishing, carpets and computer drives etc.
(powder is extreamly corrosive and gets everywhere effectively writing off electrical equipment with in the cloud settlement area) as well as ruining soft furnishings
http://www.lincoln.anglican.org/pdf_view.php?id=809
and causing health problems (ever used one and you might have noticed you spent the rest of the day on the toilet.... i can vouch for that)
Most foam (afff) are dielectric rated now to 35kv
http://www.safelincs.co.uk/6ltr-foam-fi ... ia-s6dlwb/
so safe to use at home even on live electrical appliances although always turn them off as if its an electrical fault that caused the fire it will only re light and the new water fog units are winning lots of accolades and look very attractive indeed especially for home as its distilled water there is no mess it also drags smoke out the air,,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNFD-z4hXXQ
these look great but they are not cheap to buy although the 1l water looks cheap enough
http://www.safelincs.co.uk/e-series-wat ... nguishers/
and you can use them on Chip pan fires! ((NOTE NEVER USE NORMAL WATER OR AFFF ON A CHIP PAN)))
Im not holier than thou before yesterday i thought we was good with 1 6kg powder in the loft (im happy with that as it gets cold up there)
dry powder 6kg on the upstairs landing will make a mess of any bed room im sure......
in the cupboard in the hall way ((we all know where they are)) there is a 3ltr water adative spray and another 6kg powder again not happy about the powder
kitchen has 2l afff with Fat pan rating and a 1x1m2 blanket
workshop 2x6kg powder 6l foam spray a 2kg CO2 and a 3l water additive
this shows why anything other than a special extinguisher is bad for cooking oils
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPAw3MAtTnw
Last edited by Yorkshire Andy on Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong 
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine