im 20 years old and my parents where orignally against me prepping when i started... but i think they have acepted it now with what has gone on in the world....
We have 3 sheds in the back garden, the orignal plans where to tear them down for when we move but it would cost more to do it that way (they aren't normal sheds there is the outter wooden wall then there is a 2-3 inch layer of fillafoam) so we are just fixing them up, they are giving me the biggest shed at the top of the garden its about 15ft long by 10ft wide but 8ft high, once we have finished i will be doing futher modifications to the shed but i dont know what... any suggestions????
and before anyone asks... we run a exotic pet busisness and before we started selling the animals and just kept them as pets we had them in sheds.
Re-inforced shed
Re: Re-inforced shed
Well firstly the bad news. No matter how well you strengthen a shed , building or whatever if it is unoccupied then if someone will gain entry if they have the time and inclination.
Now the good news is that there is much you can do to protect your shed. Nearly all ner do wells will attempt entry via doors and windows so re enforcing walls and roof will have minimal effect on security. Mine has the walls lined with 12mm ply which would stop anyone getting in but helps more in adding structural strength as well as making the fixing of things to the wall so much easier. Windows can have shutters , simple ones of 18 or 25mm ply and secured with bolts that pass through the shed wall and have the nuts on the inside.
The door is the most vulnerable point . Ideally a mortice and tenon construction , hinges fixed again with bolts rather than just screws and more than just a cheap padlock. With a decently made door mortise deadlocks can be fitted. An alarm is also a good idea.
Inside try to disguise things as much as possible. Most crims are after things like power tools so even if you have those house them in tatty plywood boxes. I tend to use old plastic tubs for storage. Mainly these are 10 and 15 litre paint or tile adhesive containers. It's the old " hiding things in plain site " idea.
If you have any ideas about what exactly you are going to be using the shed for then we could probably give you more detailed help. For example if you intend sleeping in there to keep legal you would need planning permission.
Now the good news is that there is much you can do to protect your shed. Nearly all ner do wells will attempt entry via doors and windows so re enforcing walls and roof will have minimal effect on security. Mine has the walls lined with 12mm ply which would stop anyone getting in but helps more in adding structural strength as well as making the fixing of things to the wall so much easier. Windows can have shutters , simple ones of 18 or 25mm ply and secured with bolts that pass through the shed wall and have the nuts on the inside.
The door is the most vulnerable point . Ideally a mortice and tenon construction , hinges fixed again with bolts rather than just screws and more than just a cheap padlock. With a decently made door mortise deadlocks can be fitted. An alarm is also a good idea.
Inside try to disguise things as much as possible. Most crims are after things like power tools so even if you have those house them in tatty plywood boxes. I tend to use old plastic tubs for storage. Mainly these are 10 and 15 litre paint or tile adhesive containers. It's the old " hiding things in plain site " idea.
If you have any ideas about what exactly you are going to be using the shed for then we could probably give you more detailed help. For example if you intend sleeping in there to keep legal you would need planning permission.
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i mainly plan on just using the shed as storage, i already have a alarm that im going to be fitting once i have a better door, it has no windows, on the outside it just looks like a common shed... the last criminal who tried to break in got bite by my alsation, they never stepped foot on the property since and ever since i started keeping snakes and my tarantulas and my camel spiders at home any of the local yobbo's wont even think about trying to rob the family lol
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Oh I love it can just see the gate sign
Never mine the dog watch the snake
and if that doesn't get you
the spiders will.
Never mine the dog watch the snake
and if that doesn't get you
the spiders will.
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Re: Re-inforced shed
Camel spiders?! We need to prep for a scenario where them giant barstools run riot! 
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Yorkshire Andy
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Re: Re-inforced shed
Just rolled up the Argos catalogue 
Its a tough thing to secure is a shed
You don't want it looking like forte Knox as its a great advert that you have something of value... You need to becsubtle...
Ensure all panels are secure mate of mine lost his mountain bike they took the gable end out of the shed plus the door just unscrewed the end section entirely....
If its a new shed I'd assemble it with panel adhesive and a good helping of clutch head screws.....
Internally lined with ply and insulation..
Beef up the door frame internally and use a blockboard firedoor over coated with whatever the original shed door is made from.... At a glance it looks standard... Ballrace hinges with inbuilt hinge bolts and a couple of bs mortace locks. And a standard bq type basic hasp and padlock slightly bigger than next doors.. to again entertain the image that its just like next doors shed but a bit more secure.... Mortace locks obviously are discrete
Make the alarm covert its hard to get a alarm box high enough to be tamper proof....
Although expensive a alarm master blaster and a few strobes linked to the alarm will make it bloody painful and disorientating at night
Its a tough thing to secure is a shed
You don't want it looking like forte Knox as its a great advert that you have something of value... You need to becsubtle...
Ensure all panels are secure mate of mine lost his mountain bike they took the gable end out of the shed plus the door just unscrewed the end section entirely....
If its a new shed I'd assemble it with panel adhesive and a good helping of clutch head screws.....
Internally lined with ply and insulation..
Beef up the door frame internally and use a blockboard firedoor over coated with whatever the original shed door is made from.... At a glance it looks standard... Ballrace hinges with inbuilt hinge bolts and a couple of bs mortace locks. And a standard bq type basic hasp and padlock slightly bigger than next doors.. to again entertain the image that its just like next doors shed but a bit more secure.... Mortace locks obviously are discrete
Make the alarm covert its hard to get a alarm box high enough to be tamper proof....
Although expensive a alarm master blaster and a few strobes linked to the alarm will make it bloody painful and disorientating at night
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
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Trespassers will be cocooned for latter consumptionjunmist wrote:Oh I love it can just see the gate sign
Never mine the dog watch the snake
and if that doesn't get you
the spiders will.
Good for a laugh but I'd follow the advice not to advertise that you have exotic and therefore valuable animals ready to be carried off.
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Ok I have just had to break into my own shed this week as I lost the key 
the advice on the net was to unscrew the hinges and take the door off so of I went with the two screwdrivers that I keep indoors to do this, well no one was getting in that way you would have had too take the whole wall down but I did find out that I could get to the screws that was holding the metal thingy that the lock goes into and managed to unscrew that and got the door open that way.
So I would cover all screw heads so that the low life's can't undo them.
the advice on the net was to unscrew the hinges and take the door off so of I went with the two screwdrivers that I keep indoors to do this, well no one was getting in that way you would have had too take the whole wall down but I did find out that I could get to the screws that was holding the metal thingy that the lock goes into and managed to unscrew that and got the door open that way.So I would cover all screw heads so that the low life's can't undo them.
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Re: Re-inforced shed
Look at the ABUS discus hasp staple and lock
Or the era narrow style set up
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0082X9 ... ot_redir=1
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-High-Sec ... oCVGDw_wcB
Some scrote in the past bent the abus beyond recognition but it held
No one has trued the era yet but no way will the average bolt cutters fit round the shank and the old looking laminate style padlock looks like something an OAP would have on a garage thus looking low tech with nowt worth pinching
Or the era narrow style set up
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0082X9 ... ot_redir=1
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-High-Sec ... oCVGDw_wcB
Some scrote in the past bent the abus beyond recognition but it held
No one has trued the era yet but no way will the average bolt cutters fit round the shank and the old looking laminate style padlock looks like something an OAP would have on a garage thus looking low tech with nowt worth pinching
If your roughing it, Your doing it wrong
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Lack of planning on your part doesn't make it an emergency on mine
Re: Re-inforced shed
Just rebuild the shed in blockwork and be done with it