Pharmaceuticals should be the last resort

[Scablifter]

I use fermented grapes to treat anxiety and fatigue after a stressful day, it really works!. I have no link to support my statement however, you will just have to take my word for it. I also find that a bag of revels can leave me with a feeling of enormous wellbeing.
Feel free to research this in the safety of you own homes. I am also aware that smoking is bad for you, but I only smoke after sex, so two cigarettes a year isn't going to kill me is it?

[rik_uk3]

Pharmaceuticals only treat symptoms, there is a time and place for them, but mostly they destroy your health.
This is the grand design of Pharma, if they cured the sick, Pharmaceuticals would be out of business.
I won't push this opinion further but I would like to point out a great alternative.

http://www.eartclinic.com

I have no links with this site other than I use holistic remedies to help my COPD.
I do believe without doubt that I would be totally cured of COPD if I stopped smoking and continued with treatments found on site.

Also I would ask you all to download some free online books that will blow some of you away.

1) The Body's many cries for water.
2) The Miracle of Magnesium
3) The Miracle of Hydrogen Peroxide

All three products are 100% natural.

I always thought as a youngster the body was capable of healing it's self given chance, many years later I found earth clinic
and I have never looked back.
Pretty much all things can be cured naturally, Lungs-Hart-Cancers everything.

You got hart trouble, Blood Pressure problems, look up Cayenne Pepper on earth clinic, A warm glass of water with less than half a teaspoon of cayenne pepper will stop a hart attack in it's tracks and will cure your blood pressure. Drink this twice a day and very quickly the heat of the peppers will not bother you.

Bicarbonate of soda / Baking Powder is fantastic at getting rid of stomach acid in minutes and has even made my partners cystitis clear fast and major dulled the pain in 10 mins.

Never take my word or any ones on this, but investigate yourself. Don't stop taking your medicines and always let family know if you start using holistic treatments.

The products I talk about cost pennies and added to preppers health kits are a massive bonus in self reliance but you should consider using some of these idea's on a daily basis.

You may think I'm nuts but the books are freely downloadable and what harm could it do to just read them.

I wish I knew this 5yrs ago, my dad would not be dead from throat cancer now.

Cancer is totally and easily cured........... but a simple pennies cure would wipe billions of Pharmaceutical profits and all that lost research cash, it goes way deeper than that.

I have COPD and there is NO cure. I'm a retired nurse and put my trust in the likes of Ventolin and Serevent over quackery everytime.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/chronic-ob ... tment.aspx

For me (and the majority of sensible people) it should be proven medication/treatment first and foremost, 'alternative' as a last resort when you have nothing to loose.

Cancer is totally and easily cured

[lonewolf]

ALL medicines have a base in nature, at one time this is all the medicines we had before the advent of pharmacuticals, and even now some medicines can still be found in their natural form, the problem with modern medicines is that they treat the symptom not the problem and every medicine seems to have side effects(just check the sheet that comes with your own medicines) plus in a SHTF event modern medicines wont last long, they'll either be grabbed by every druggie in the neighbourhood or they'll be trampled underfoot, at some point they will all run out and we will have to find our treatments in the wild or go without. luckily my wife is a keen herbalist .

[rik_uk3]

ALL medicines have a base in nature, at one time this is all the medicines we had before the advent of pharmacuticals, and even now some medicines can still be found in their natural form, the problem with modern medicines is that they treat the symptom not the problem and every medicine seems to have side effects(just check the sheet that comes with your own medicines) plus in a SHTF event modern medicines wont last long, they'll either be grabbed by every druggie in the neighbourhood or they'll be trampled underfoot, at some point they will all run out and we will have to find our treatments in the wild or go without. luckily my wife is a keen herbalist .

I see what you are saying but many, in fact the majority of herbal/natural remedies is that they simply don't work. Home made remedies are not researched, peer reviewed, trialled and proven which is my major gripe against the whole alternative medicine bunch. Most medication have potential side effects but the majority of users don't experience them (I do know a bit about this having been a nurse for over two decades). Honey can help some wounds but don't stop hayfever, vitamin C stops you getting a cold or the flu...nonsense; the list goes on and when I see ludicrous posts claiming Cancer can easily and simply be cured my blood pressure goes up.

Learn alternative medicine but don't promote it over proven medication and treatments, that could kill people.

[lonewolf]

yes, maybe, but my point is that a post shtf population probably wont have access to modern medicines and will have to rely on herbal and natural remedies, I am not really concerned about now in the good times but what happens after society collapses, now might be the right time for people to look at researching the alternatives.

[rik_uk3]

yes, maybe, but my point is that a post shtf population probably wont have access to modern medicines and will have to rely on herbal and natural remedies, I am not really concerned about now in the good times but what happens after society collapses, now might be the right time for people to look at researching the alternatives.

Research the alternatives now, stock pile meds now. Research has shown that most drugs have a far longer active shelf life that the dates stamped on the box.

I'd love to see a list of alternative meds that have been tested, peer reviewed and shown to be anywhere near as effective as an OTC/prescription med; I'm serious here I'd love to see a list that is shown to actually work and not reliant on the placebo effect as is the case with honey and hay fever, vit C and colds/flu sort of thing.

Where modern man/woman has a head start is that we have knowledge of hygiene and first aid (simple and advanced), isolation of patients et al and these are what may be true life saves in the future. A good starting point for future health care could well be learning how to make soap, simple soap. Given that herbal/alternative 'cures' have been around for centuries why is it that life expectancy was so pee poor only a hundred years ago? Poor personal hygiene and sanitation are two reasons.

Learn the 'alternatives' but don't expect much from them, learning to live clean, learning how to treat patients 'clean' is vital.

[ForgeCorvus]

I'd love to see a list of alternative meds that have been tested, peer reviewed and shown to be anywhere near as effective as an OTC/prescription med; I'm serious here I'd love to see a list that is shown to actually work and not reliant on the placebo effect as is the case with honey and hay fever, vit C and colds/flu sort of thing.

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Never happen, theres no money in it as you can't patent a non-GM plant or something like "Honey"

While I'll agree that a percentage of claims made for natural remedies is just so much snake-oil, please don't dismiss them all as bunk...... Because some of them aren't.

[lonewolf]

got to agree, "back in the day" most people didn't know about hygiene and cleanliness, mind you it wasn't that long ago that "doctors" used to think bloodletting was the answer to all ills.