First aid

[Bizz901]

Has anyone ever used quick clot ? I'm looking to get a pack for my emergency car kit,any advice or review would be good

[Devonian]

The search facility is your friend in this request!

[preppingsu]

As I say no problem , but thanks for the thanks.

I don't know the full story on Quick Clot , but from what I understand it was pretty cutting edge when it was released ( maybe too early from R&D??? ) and can cause significant additional injury to the patient and the attending individual. As it basically cauterises via burning and specks that get into your/their eyes or lungs can cause problems.

Interesting to note Celox has none of these issues.

I'm not saying don't use Quickclot and if I was the one bleeding out I'd be happy for anyone to try anything on me to save my life. Just that there are mixed views on it and the application of it.

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As Devonian said do a search - that's all I did to find this quote.

[Winklebury]

Celox is a generation on from Quik Clot. It clots without requiring a a huge exothermic reaction.

Quik Clot, when it mixes with blood, creates a tremendous amount of heat. This cauterises the wound closed. So far, great. However the collateral damage is significant. It can burn the aid worker, and damage large quantities of flesh around the wound of the patient. It is therefore only suitable on limbs, not the torso, neck or head.

Celox clots without cauterising. It has, if viewed under a microscope, a very rough surface, and naturally clings to itself. even when 'dry' as a powder. Once it contacts blood, it clots very strongly, forming a barrier. It does not give off heat, and it does not damage tissue. It is therefore suitable for use all over the body. There is a risk with it drying the lungs, if used in the chest cavity, but this drawback is much smaller than the negative side effects of Quick Clot.

Put simply, it is a generation more advanced. Down side, it has a limited (3 year) shelf life.

Up side, it works extremely well. The clots are strong, but can be removed easily by surgeons. It works on hyperthermic blood, and blood which has been treated with anti coagulants, heparin and warfarin.

I wrote about this, see the conversation. It seems people have lumped Celox into the same category as Quick Clot, without knowing that it is in fact very different.

Celox, not Quik Clot!!!!

I hope this helps!

[Sirmattyb]

The new Quikclot causes no exothermic heat. Celox, Chitsan, Hemcon & Quikclot are all pretty good from what I hear now. None cause exothermic reactions any more, and from what I hear from a friend of mine who is a paramedic all of them can be easily removed (there used to be a problem with the Quikclot granules being hard to remove). I personally have mainly Celox and a few Hemcon bandages I also have an old out of date quikclot granules sachet which has a big warning on the side saying causes heat etc

[Cougar]

I have also heard Celox is better than Quikclot. Don't know if it still the case but if Quikclot is used you had to wash it out of the wound before suturing etc and with Celox that wasn't the case. Planning to get some of the 2g Celox sachets for my FAKs.

[Malthouse]

They are ok, but you get better shelf life out of ordinary dressings and with a good selection you can pack out a wound and put a pressure dressing on. Also better if you are away from civilisation for whatever reason.

[Memphis]

I havent been to town to look but is this sort of kit readily available in boots and such places or is there a website you can reccomend?

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[lonewolf]

I've gone for a large military style first aid kit, I managed to get several(I've got about 6 so far) from a friend who started selling surplus stuff online(he's closed down at the moment due to a house move) and will be adding to them(you cant have too many FAC's) as and when I can.