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Huntsman

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Don't mean to be a picky-Peter but quite a few of you have mentioned that handguns are illegal, which for the most part is correct but there are two Legal ways of owning them (one of which I've utilised)
1. Get direct permission from Scotland yard
2. Apply for a section 5 permitted firearm certificate, if granted you may own a handgun but you must have a good reason, for example mine is that I'm an avid hunter and sometimes it's dangerous to dispatch a shot deer or animal at close range (or in a confined space) with a rifle, and so you can be granted a handgun certificate for the safe and humane dispatch of deer.
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you missed out vest and some farmers can also get handguns under section 5
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Moony
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Huntsman wrote:Don't mean to be a picky-Peter but quite a few of you have mentioned that handguns are illegal, which for the most part is correct but there are two Legal ways of owning them (one of which I've utilised)
1. Get direct permission from Scotland yard
2. Apply for a section 5 permitted firearm certificate, if granted you may own a handgun but you must have a good reason, for example mine is that I'm an avid hunter and sometimes it's dangerous to dispatch a shot deer at close range (or in a confined space) with a rifle, and so you can be granted a handgun certificate for the safe and humane dispatch of deer.
I am interested that you have been permitted this section 5 certificate as I understand it is very unusual. Is your handgun capacity restricted ? I believe that normally handguns allowed under such circumstances are normally restricted to 1 or 2 shots as there would normally be no good reason to load more rounds than this for humane dispatch purposes ?
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Huntsman

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Moony wrote:
Huntsman wrote:Don't mean to be a picky-Peter but quite a few of you have mentioned that handguns are illegal, which for the most part is correct but there are two Legal ways of owning them (one of which I've utilised)
1. Get direct permission from Scotland yard
2. Apply for a section 5 permitted firearm certificate, if granted you may own a handgun but you must have a good reason, for example mine is that I'm an avid hunter and sometimes it's dangerous to dispatch a shot deer at close range (or in a confined space) with a rifle, and so you can be granted a handgun certificate for the safe and humane dispatch of deer.
I am interested that you have been permitted this section 5 certificate as I understand it is very unusual. Is your handgun capacity restricted ? I believe that normally handguns allowed under such circumstances are normally restricted to 1 or 2 shots as there would normally be no good reason to load more rounds than this for humane dispatch purposes ?
It's restricted to a 2 round capacity but some people may import bigger magazines illegally (which I wouldn't condone of course!)
firepower

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Section 5 are prohibited weapons. Section 3 are for humane dispatch generally.

Sect 3 would be a pistol restricted two two or three shots. In a revolver this is generally done by inserting metal Ross into the chambers. These have a tendency to fall out an have to be knocked back in. In a semi auto pistol the magazine will be pinned so that only three rounds can be loaded into it. Magazines are available for most semi autos on the Internet but look forward to a long stretch in jail if you get caught with one.

Section 5 pistols are permitted in certain circumstances. Dispatch of dangerous animals such as wild boar is one. A friend has an unrestricted .44 magnum for this purpose. Personally I think they are more trouble than they are worth. Give me a rifle any day.


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firepower wrote:Section 5 are prohibited weapons. Section 3 are for humane dispatch generally.

Sect 3 would be a pistol restricted two two or three shots. In a revolver this is generally done by inserting metal Ross into the chambers. These have a tendency to fall out an have to be knocked back in. In a semi auto pistol the magazine will be pinned so that only three rounds can be loaded into it. Magazines are available for most semi autos on the Internet but look forward to a long stretch in jail if you get caught with one.

Section 5 pistols are permitted in certain circumstances. Dispatch of dangerous animals such as wild boar is one. A friend has an unrestricted .44 magnum for this purpose. Personally I think they are more trouble than they are worth. Give me a rifle any day.


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I don't want to go into any particular details about the caliber of handgun Ive been permitted, but it's a high caliber handgun and I hold it on a section 5 permit. I'm not a lawyer but when I went for a meeting with the firearms officer, he decided a section 5 permit was needed. It took an extremely long time to gain (nearing two years) but I use it often and in a lot of situations for example if I Hit a deer and it scrambbled off into this undergrowth then a rifle is incredibly inadequate as a gun to dispatch, as you cannot just crawl in with a rifle.
CharlestonChauncey

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maxilaura wrote:welcome to the forum, I love Charleston, stayed in Mount Pleasant the last time I was there. The mozzies ate me alive tho.

your weapon list is pretty impressive even if you say it is nothing fancy, probably the same type of list that our farmers back in South Africa have.
I like Mt. Pleasant too, but please don't conflate it with S. Africa!!

I think I might be too worried about stockpiling weapons when I should be focussing on my cistern! And food storage &c.!

Haven't had internet for a week due to vertigo complication.
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Hi Chancey and welcome :)

Quite an arsenal you have there! Most of us here have to make do with crossbows, bows and catapults, quite medievil I know :)
The good side of all this is that if the SHTF over here most people out there won't have firearms :)

I've ordered a crossbow and pistol crossbow and i'm really looking forward to shooting them..

It will be good to hear your views on stuff. :)

regards

Bilbo
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lightningxl
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Welcome from this side of the pond - trust you find find loads of useful info here. A you prepping for something specific or general threats...?
latebloomer

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Post by latebloomer »

Welcome from me too, I just joined the site and am new to prepping.
Guns scare the cr@p out of me so i dont consider having any. My kids handled them in cadets, so they are at least competent at handling them.
The situation over here in the UK is a bit different to the States, most regular people have no need for guns.
Farmers may do for pest control etc. and people who live and work in the countryside have them for sporting use. criminals seem to be able to lay their hands on them easily enough, but in genereal most of the population have never seen one let alone handled one.

On the plus side, if anyone enters my property 'uninvited ' the chances of them having a gun with them are pretty remote. i could just be living in the clouds here, and maybe everyone will jump on me now and tell me how naive i am , but thats just my perception.