Prepping is getting bigger in the UK

[Frnc]

I think in the event of shtf, people generally look out for each other, out of necessity. Human civilisation was based on reciprocal altruism for 300,000 years. Class (ie a ruling class) only arose in the Neolithic, 10,000 years ago. Reciprocal altuism works like this - I share the food I've just gathered or hunted with you, and next time it will likely be the other way round.

There is research on how humans act in a disaster, and cooperation is the norm. Of course you'll need to band together with your neighbours. If there are looters, this is especially important.

[ForgeCorvus]

.......Human civilisation was based on reciprocal altruism for 300,000 years. Class (ie a ruling class) only arose in the Neolithic, 10,000 years ago. Reciprocal altuism works like this - I share the food I've just gathered or hunted with you, and next time it will likely be the other way round.

This sort of behaviour can be seen in some documentaries, for example "Benefits Buddies" (two mates on different payment cycles who know they can borrow off each other) or the group of homeless friends who share out any windfalls.

It doesn't matter if you live in a cave or a tower block. People are people, solving people problems in people ways

[Frnc]

I thought they'd stopped making these, but look what popped up while looking for a sofa throw

https://www.houseoffraser.co.uk/brand/k ... e=78405112

You can use them as a rucksack liner as well.

[Bijela]

Nice for the price. Would buy 4, but the nearest store is 40 miles away.

[Frnc]

Nice for the price. Would buy 4, but the nearest store is 40 miles away.

Their delivery price is a bit steep.

[jennyjj01]

I thought they'd stopped making these, but look what popped up while looking for a sofa throw

https://www.houseoffraser.co.uk/brand/k ... e=78405112

You can use them as a rucksack liner as well.

Interesting, and possibly taking us off topic a tad. Search amazon for 'Survival bag' for similar.
Useful for a dire bugged out refugee situation.

ASDA George had some good value sofa throws.

[GillyBee]

There is also the point that you can't do everything. If the prepping is more that covering off power cuts, water shortage e.t.c. Then, I think you have to be open to a select group. If, you're maintaining/building stores. You can't always defend it. You would need help. Most people have some sort of value. Unless, lazy. You could have an older person who can fish or can knit. To me, that person has more value than a lot of the youngsters I work with as some can't be bothered to work more than the 20 odd hours contract they have.

Selco commented on the importance of community in his description of the Kosovo siege. And even someone quite infirm may add value if they can act as a lookout, keep up to date with radio news or watch small kids. closer.

I would not say I live in a tight community but when the London riots occurred in 2011, the street considered manned roadblocks if it had spread closer. It does not take a lot for decent people to start working together. Less said about t'other sort the better.....

[Yorkshire Andy]

There is also the point that you can't do everything. If the prepping is more that covering off power cuts, water shortage e.t.c. Then, I think you have to be open to a select group. If, you're maintaining/building stores. You can't always defend it. You would need help. Most people have some sort of value. Unless, lazy. You could have an older person who can fish or can knit. To me, that person has more value than a lot of the youngsters I work with as some can't be bothered to work more than the 20 odd hours contract they have.

Selco commented on the importance of community in his description of the Kosovo siege. And even someone quite infirm may add value if they can act as a lookout, keep up to date with radio news or watch small kids. closer.

I would not say I live in a tight community but when the London riots occurred in 2011, the street considered manned roadblocks if it had spread closer. It does not take a lot for decent people to start working together. Less said about t'other sort the better.....

Few summers ago a bunch of teens who's parents had gone out threw a party a few doors up from my sisters.. well they got booze and started behaving like neanderthals.... it was bin night so they went down the street tipping the general waste bins and this upset a few... within minutes a group of men appeared they'd gone out of several houses quickly accosted the brats and frog marched them back up the street clearing up the mess they made...
.they got to my sisters bin stood it back up.. they last thing she did before pulling the bin out was empty the tom cats festering litter tray ( he's a mucky sod) there was a lot of wrenching and " I don't give a feck you tipped it over you can pick the sh1t up" they were doing it with their hands..

Next morning the blokes got back together at half Seven am on a Sunday and brayed on the house door till mum finally answered to let the parentsbknow what the kids had been upto

[GillyBee]

And that is the real reason that we didn't have so much trouble in the "good old days". My sister was troubled as a teen. And her activities were reported to my Mum by the pub locals on a regular basis which didn't stop all of it but certainly helped cool things down.

[Frnc]

I had a party when my parents went away when I was about 18. Someone threw some talc in the bathroom. That was the only incident. Suspects were members of a punk band who used to do it on stage, god knows why. They were semi-famous, as they played with the Sex Pistols, which was rare, as most of the Pistols' gigs got cancelled by councils, due to a pathetic media hype about punk. My mate was on the cover of the Mirror, big full page pic. She was a copper a few year later. The headline was "The Face Of Punk" if I remember correctly.

Regarding the plastic bivvy bags, they may be available elsewhere, but all the ones I've seen are space blanket material. I just have a silver blanket. But my rucksack liner is huge, so would cover me at least up to my waist as a survival bag. You can use rubble bags as sack liners. Mine is an Osprey, the largest they do.