jansman wrote:Run with the vet. Our terrier has symptoms of Gastro enteritis. Vet first thing. It will cost, but that is what cash is for( no I am not wealthy). We have to stock up on flea treatment AND wormers for dog and the two cats. Piperazine is far more effective and humane than an ounce of Old Holborn. The last time I heard of any one worming dogs with tobacco was back 30 years ago when I kept working Russells. It was frowned upon then.
Please use the vet( or Pets At Home/chemist) it is far more effective.
Of course a vet is far preferable. However, in a SHTF scenario I would welcome any advice that guides me on how to maintain the overall health of my pets, and I thought that was part of the process here!
jansman wrote:Run with the vet. Our terrier has symptoms of Gastro enteritis. Vet first thing. It will cost, but that is what cash is for( no I am not wealthy). We have to stock up on flea treatment AND wormers for dog and the two cats. Piperazine is far more effective and humane than an ounce of Old Holborn. The last time I heard of any one worming dogs with tobacco was back 30 years ago when I kept working Russells. It was frowned upon then.
Please use the vet( or Pets At Home/chemist) it is far more effective.
Of course a vet is far preferable. However, in a SHTF scenario I would welcome any advice that guides me on how to maintain the overall health of my pets, and I thought that was part of the process here!
Maybe I misunderstood
IMHO, the course of action, as a prepper, is to have a good supply of both worming and flea medication from the vet, as well as any other regular medications that your animals may require. That's what I have - I keep six months worth of both in at all times. When I use one, I replace it and put that to the back of the stash. In a long-term STHF situation, i.e. complete economic meltdown, my cat wouldn't be going outside anyway, so I could eke out the treatments to make them last longer (i.e. only flea and worm once every two months, rather than every month), as the risk would be miniscule to nil.
you can always try pennyroyle, rosemary and peppermint together either in oil's or make a strong tea if you use oils you need about 5 to 10 drops of each oil to 1 gallon of warm water, dry herbs 1tsp or 3tsp fresh herbs 2 1/2 cups of boiling water and leave for 10minutes then dip in flea comb and work through coat. Note do not use pennyroyle on pregnant animals. You can also use the above herbs with lavender eucalyptus, marjoram and sage as a dry mix and put in beds.
Tick repellent powdered rosemary, Rue (be careful as the sap is an irritant) and wormwood mix the powdered herbs in equal parts in a screw top jar and shake well and keep in a cool dark place, work through fur before going into woods.
I'm not saying that these are as good as the man made stuff but once you run out it is useful to know.
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junmist wrote:you can always try pennyroyle, rosemary and peppermint together either in oil's or make a strong tea if you use oils you need about 5 to 10 drops of each oil to 1 gallon of warm water, dry herbs 1tsp or 3tsp fresh herbs 2 1/2 cups of boiling water and leave for 10minutes then dip in flea comb and work through coat. Note do not use pennyroyle on pregnant animals. You can also use the above herbs with lavender eucalyptus, marjoram and sage as a dry mix and put in beds.
Tick repellent powdered rosemary, Rue (be careful as the sap is an irritant) and wormwood mix the powdered herbs in equal parts in a screw top jar and shake well and keep in a cool dark place, work through fur before going into woods.
I'm not saying that these are as good as the man made stuff but once you run out it is useful to know.
junmist, that's a fantastic, constructive response. I will be giving this a go asahp. Thank you.
I was also thinking that the dog 'panniers' might be a good idea in a BO. I've not used them, but dogs appear to be fine wearing them. Does anyone have any experience? I was thinking that they might be able to carry a few days of their own dried food therefore reducing the weight in the BOB
We are about to pick up a labrador pup in a couple of weeks so this is a new area of prepping for us. We do have 2 rabbits atm but they would become food in the event of a massive food shortage. I wouldn't let them loose as I don't want them eating my veg! With our new dog, the first thing is training which is a necessity followed by and in conjunction with food and medicines to stock for them. As has been discussed before, a lot of dog food can be eaten by humans so visa versa dogs can eat some of our food. In our normal preps, I would ensure I have enough veg and oats/bran stuff that a dog could eat if we ran out of tinned dog food. Will need to look at what can and what can't be eaten by them but this will be a new learning journey for us. From a long term prep point of view, a well trained dog, (and Labs being from the gun dog group are good dogs to train,) will be an asset from a protection/guard and companion point of view. A dog acts as a focal point in a family. Not only can it work when needed but it can offer comfort and companionship, and it can also help occupy people that need something to keep them occupied in a SHtF situation.
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PreppingPingu wrote:We are about to pick up a labrador pup in a couple of weeks so this is a new area of prepping for us. We do have 2 rabbits atm but they would become food in the event of a massive food shortage. I wouldn't let them loose as I don't want them eating my veg! With our new dog, the first thing is training which is a necessity followed by and in conjunction with food and medicines to stock for them. As has been discussed before, a lot of dog food can be eaten by humans so visa versa dogs can eat some of our food. In our normal preps, I would ensure I have enough veg and oats/bran stuff that a dog could eat if we ran out of tinned dog food. Will need to look at what can and what can't be eaten by them but this will be a new learning journey for us. From a long term prep point of view, a well trained dog, (and Labs being from the gun dog group are good dogs to train,) will be an asset from a protection/guard and companion point of view. A dog acts as a focal point in a family. Not only can it work when needed but it can offer comfort and companionship, and it can also help occupy people that need something to keep them occupied in a SHtF situation.
you wont regret getting a labrador, best all round dog!
you may regret it when he/she is running after someones childs football. thats a cringe situation that usually ends up in tears "mummmmm the big dog pushed me over then popped my ball WAHHHHHHHH"
As a newbie I was surprised to read this thread, both dogs and cats can be fed raw/semi raw diets, the current trendy thing is all animal products, but this is really not correct. Dogs & cats can survive happily on a diet of raw/cooked fish/poultry/meat mixed with raw/cooked veg and some carbs like rice/oats/potato & people should be aware that some raw feeding groups deny tat dogs can be safely fed carbs, but many dogs produce the starch emzyme & cats do ok with it.
ive got a staffy who is soft as a brush till someone passes the house or comes anywhere near the door. my wife and son are not very interested in prepping to my level but if the shtf my dog will be fed along side us and if we starve we all starve. I couldn't eat him or harm him in any way he has protected me quite a few times when situations could have got big. and I need him even moreso now the reason being my hearing is failing and I have tinnitus. and have had a hearing aid made. up till recently I could have heard a gnat break wind at 200 yards but tinnitus drowns out a lot of the sounds I would normally hear when im out hunting walking etc and my dog has become my ears. the hearing aid will help but if I look at it in the cold light of day my hearing will be dependant most of the time on an electronic device which needs a regular supply of batteries which are specialist and post shtf I know I wont be able to get them. dog as mans best friend has even more meaning for me know
