Triage

[prepperG]

A good topic to raise as we can find our selfs in a situation very quickly and as prepers we are prob the type that will step forward to deal with it.
It is a very quick assesment and should not take more than a few seconds per casualty.
direct walkers to a safe area (consider wind direction and escape route) asking people to raise there hand if the person next to them is unconciouse is a handy way of getting an overview.
If you have someone that can also do triage ask them to start at one end and work towards you then report, i do this at rta's we start at each end of the pile up and end up in the middle.
check for responce and open airway if they do not breath they are dead leave them and move on.
T1 Red imediate life threat
T2 Amber Urgent
T3 Green walking non urgent
T4 Black dead, move on, ask someone to cover them for you if poss.

having worked out how many of each, you then need to use the information by calling for assistance early (methane report), it takes time for resources to arrive.
Treat T1 first stop major bleeding or keep airway open.
Also dont forget step 1-2-3
if you have 3 uncon pt stop do not approach, think gas etc do not make yourself a casualty.

[Malthouse]

Is the priority numbering and METHANE really relevant for this?

[Hamradioop]

METHANE report explained.

M My call-sign, or name and appointment
Major incident STANDBY or DECLARED

E Exact location
• grid reference, or GPS where available

T Type of incident

H Hazards, present and potential

A Access to scene, and egress route
• helicopter landing site location

N Number and severity of casualties

E Emergency services present and required

[Malthouse]

Really? I remain unconvinced that this is suitable for the Prepper.

Methane reports are used as an aid memoir for services and agencies, as a way to report relevant info up the chain of command (bronze, silver and gold). I cannot see how a Prepper is going to have a need to feed this info onwards, certainly is someone calls 999 and tried to declare a major incident they will get nowhere.

[Agador]

Triage. Sorting out the casualties. From those who are walking wounded, to those who are obviously dead and expected to die.

In my previous career (CMT) our triage could take place using different tactics.

Mass/multiple casualty situation, where your resources are limited. You'd do the least for the most.
Eg.
Walking wounded would self aid/buddy aid.
Those with broken limbs with no complications could be left in situ as the ground splints legs quote well (these are only quick examples)
Those who would benefit from life saving surgical intervention, could be tourniquet'd or chest sealed and moved to definitive care.
The walking wounded can help you with the other casualties-if appropriate.
The person who isn't breathing, even on opening the airway, is taking you away from popping a tourniquet on the person in stage 2 shock....who will in turn stop breathing himself anyway.

Depending on how desperate the situation is, what personnel and kit you have, you could send a recce in, to tell you what kind of casualties you have. So you can deploy your people appropriately.


Working in a med centre, if we had a call of someone collapsed ?cause and not breathing, this is different, because we are not over run with people whose health will deteriorate if we go to this person and splurge resources to save him.

So, in your scenario, you were not over run with casualties, you were in no danger and help would normally start arriving sharpish, bystanders, plod, water fairies, ambulance.

In non SHTF, when stuff goes wrong, we have the luxury of outside help.
As and when it all goes wrong, like your village is cut off in the snow, you'll be trying to make the best out of a naff situation. You will do what you can for who you can.
It's what sets us above others. Our humanity.

[Yorkshire Andy]

I cannot see how a Prepper is going to have a need to feed this info onwards, certainly is someone calls 999 and tried to declare a major incident they will get nowhere.

I managed to do that when the police none emergency call handler got what i was saying wrong be it a mobile phone drop out or what ever...

I'd rung to report a HGV ratchet strap which had come off a LGV and was caught on the bridge parapet overhanging a minor road and public footpath..

( metal ratchet and hook swinging happily in the wind)

I was patched straight through to their command center

The initial call handler had assumed i'd said there is a LGV hanging off the bridge and invoked chaos at the command center and had apparently begun relaying info from my call to all the services.... `

"No not a lorry its just a big fabric strap hanging off the bridge with a big metal hook and ratchet assembly"

[Malthouse]

I managed to do that when the police none emergency call handler got what i was saying wrong be it a mobile phone drop out or what ever.

You must have a more commanding tone than I, whenever I call 999 they treat me like a loon that dialled the number by accident

[poppypiesdad]

Triage P1 to P5

P1's immediate help
P5 's body bag

With the others rated to injuries

But a very simple triage process

Leave the screamers till later , the can breathe and are conscious worry about the quiet ones . Very simple process.

J