Using old Diesel

[jennyjj01]

You can store up to 275L if you inform the PEA in writing. I don't know if they have a right to refuse permission.
"If you wish to store any more than this [30L], you must notify your local PEA in writing. You must provide them with your name and address as either the occupier of the place where the fuel is being stored, or the address of where the fuel is being stored if it’s not your home.

There are no legal requirement for how much diesel you can keep at home.

What is the maximum amount of petrol I can store at home?
The maximum amount of fuel you can store at home is 275 litres. You must notify your local PEA if storing anything between 30-275 litres, following the guidelines listed above."

[grenfell]

I realise we're veering towards petrol rather than diesel but I think we are all agreed there's no limit to storing diesel and it's pretty much safe to use .
Interesting reading the government website though concerning petrol storage . We all seem agreed that 30L can be stored without involving the authorities. As I read it it's also ok to store 30L on the vehicle in cans in addition to the vehicle's own tank which appears to me to be a loophole which allows effectively 60Ls of storage ? It does say that upto 275L can be stored as long as the authorities are informed. It's a bit scarce on whether checks are needed but does say not stored in the living accommodation but an integral garage is ok as long as the ceiling meets fire regulations and ventilation is there to stop the build up of vapour. The bit that I find confusing is the part that says that petrol should not be dispensed either pumped or manually at the storage premises which would seem to me to mean the petrol would have to be removed first . Whether that means I couldn't fill the car up in the garage but I could carry the petrol out to the car on the drive isn't clear to me. Gotta love government clarity.
I know we've all spoken in the past of the need to stay under the radar and be a grey man and having to inform the authorities seems to go against that ethos. Ultimately I tend to feel this is very much the same as the "how long will your preps last" thread. If you need to store enough fuel to last a couple of months there's every chance something big has happened and you won't need to travel much as your job has probably disappeared as well.

[grenfell]

As I read it it's also ok to store 30L on the vehicle in cans in addition to the vehicle's own tank which appears to me to be a loophole which allows effectively 60Ls of storage ?

Just reread and I think I'm wrong there. It says up to 30L in a maximum of two containers ( are there 15L jerry cans?) but that contributes to the total that can be stored on a premises without informing the authorites. Hence if you have 20L on the vehicle then that only allows a further 10L to be stored at home.

[jennyjj01]

As I read it it's also ok to store 30L on the vehicle in cans in addition to the vehicle's own tank which appears to me to be a loophole which allows effectively 60Ls of storage ?

Just reread and I think I'm wrong there. It says up to 30L in a maximum of two containers ( are there 15L jerry cans?) but that contributes to the total that can be stored on a premises without informing the authorities. Hence if you have 20L on the vehicle then that only allows a further 10L to be stored at home.

They don't count what's in a vehicle tank, but they do count containers on it or in the boot etc..
I don't think there are 15L jerry cans. Use a 20 and a 10. The 10 can be plastic.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion ... iation.htm

[grenfell]

Yes I'll admit I skimmed it a bit at first and read it that I could store 30L in the garage and 30L in the van but on closer inspection it's 30L in total
To be honest I prefer to keep fuel in metal containers if it's stored for any length of time especially if it's petrol. I also prefer containers to be the same size , not essential but makes for easier storage to me . I have seen 10L jerry cans and also 5L ones too although they seem to be rare specialist types that cost a fair whack . I do have a couple of the old two gallon square cans although looking on ebay they seem to be worth far more than the contents will ever be. I have a number of the gallon plastic cans that I use for regular and short term use. Two of those live in the van , one is four stroke and one mixed for two stroke and there are usually another couple stored in the garage ready to use. Reading the regs it looks like while there's only 10L on the van if I were to put a third on there I'd be breaking the law as I would be exceeding two containers. Pragmatically it's probably academic really as when was the last time your vehicle was searched ? Mine was searched around 12 years ago by military police as I was working at an MOD premises but it's never been looked at by the civilian police although of course we like to stay all legal...

[jennyjj01]

It would be interesting to try notifying the PEA to see how hard it is to get approval to store more.

[grenfell]

It would wouldn't it. It's a question that I've seen asked on a couple of other forums and nobody seems to have the answer. Perhaps that means there are a number of hoops to jump through or people are wary of inspectors turning up at their houses or perhaps people are just happy to turn a blind eye to infringing the law or even perhaps people just don't see any need to store those amounts...?

[Nurseandy]

From a personal point of view I keep 5x 5 litre plastic cans of petrol plus 16 litres in my motorbike tank and ~ 5 litres of 2 stroke for the chainsaw. I have another old bike I'm doing up so could have another 20 litres in that tank but i don't actually feel comfortable storing any more than I have.
I also have 10 litres of diesel just because. Helpfull for freeing up rusted tools if nothing else.

[jennyjj01]

From a personal point of view I keep 5x 5 litre plastic cans of petrol plus 16 litres in my motorbike tank and ~ 5 litres of 2 stroke for the chainsaw. I have another old bike I'm doing up so could have another 20 litres in that tank but i don't actually feel comfortable storing any more than I have.
I also have 10 litres of diesel just because. Helpfull for freeing up rusted tools if nothing else.

Just to remind: 5 x 5 L cans takes you over the two cans limit, besides being over the 20L limit.
We have 4 x5L Petrol and 2x20L Diesel. so we're on thin ice too. Like yourself, I'm uneasy storing more petrol. Those plastic cans are not very tough and we had one split from just expansion.

[Winterprep]

So my 240ltrs of Diesel and 120 of Petrol is naughty

All in proper metal Jerry cans away from any ignition sources and house.

WP.