My Stealth Permanent Camp/Bug Out Location.

[Hamradioop]

Just to clarify my postings in this thread, I posted links to various bits on the laws of Trespass to clarify it. Trespass in its simplest form is a Civil Tort with the civil remedy of seeking an injunction. Some of the posting on here have been erroneous in there statements. Also allegations were made of Criminal damage, from the photos shown I saw no one committing any criminal act whatsoever. the onus probandi is on the accuser not the defendant. Yes I have had legal training and I have been involved in ongoing cases of Civil Trespass and Criminal damage and therefore probably have as much knowledge if not more than some on this board. Now if we were talking about Scotland or Ulster that is a whole different can of worms as the laws are totally separate to England and Wales.

[lonewolf]

I think there is a difference here, in that the land in question is owned by the Forestry Commission (a Government body) and not a private landowner, so different rules may apply, I know around here the FC does not allow camping and fires are strictly forbidden, designated camp sites are available, if this was POST SHTF when WROL would be the order of the day, I would say good on you-go for it, but it isn't and for the moment we have to abide by the rules of the day, not his land so ergo he is trespassing, he knows that and will have to accept the consequences of his actions. this is NOT a permanent camp(despite the thread title) and is very temporary by nature.

[lonewolf]

is this person a prepper? or just a big kid making "dens" in the woods? I haven't as yet heard any remarks about prepping, or SHTF, or BOL, just some photos of a very temporary looking camp in some woodlands built without the owners permission.

oh i haven't mentioned any of those things? thats odd, do you know what BOL stands for? its right in front of you, after 'My Stealth Permanent/'

well I know your a new member, however this is the only thread of any length I have seen you contribute to.

[Malthouse]

I can see merit in what the OP has achieved, but if it were my hard work going into a camp like this I would want security in knowing it was not going to be ripped down by an irate landowner.

As a general principal we should respect other people's land...

Take nothing but pictures,
Leave nothing but footprints,
etc

[Trojanhorse]

Steve- you said 'you might think this is a bad idea but any questions please ask, im happy to answer!'

We did and you have not taken them well!

Ref the fencing I saw something similar a few weeks ago in Devon - it was to protect a new plantation of trees. That might be while it is there and in the future the FC may come and cut down the trees. Though as others said it might well be for game.

[FEISTY]

Honest to God, guys - give it a rest. You're making this very personal and still being aggressive. I don't think SteveColes is going to have a nervous breakdown if he comes back and finds his stuff gone, but it's highly unlikely (do you really care, or are you just being mean?). Worst case scenario, in my opinion, is an irate jobsworth who gives him an earful and tells him to shove off - also highly unlikely, how many people do you think the local authorities employ to stake out the woods to nab campers . This isn't privately owned land anyway - it's looked after by the Forestry Commission, a government department, who actively promote it and encourage you to visit and take advantage of it. SteveColes, why not apply for a felling licence and be done with it!!!! Probably just as well opsec is a priority here, because too many alpha males spoils the broth. Chill! Steve, now you know chopping down the trees (pre SHTF) isn't wise, maybe you could just "re-distribute" the evidence (into your home wood burner?) and either just take your tent, etc in a BOB whenever you visit? There's always a solution . The fact that you've staked out a suitable spot is, in my opinion, fully within the bugging out game plan and I wish I was as far advanced as you in that respect. I'm still buying rice FGS !

[lonewolf]

taking a tent would be a good idea( I still think camping isn't allowed under FC rules only at designated campsites but that's another matter), "take nothing but memories and leave nothing except footprints".

[lonewolf]

he IS breaking the law, he's trespassing.....did you miss that bit? see:Acts prohibited, item X "tents". http://www.forestry.gov.uk/pdf/fce-fc-b ... yelaws.pdf

[iSkynet]

he IS breaking the law, he's trespassing.....did you miss that bit?

Haha what law? Trespassing is not breaking the law. It is not a crime. Even if you you want it to be it is not.

[lonewolf]

he IS breaking the law, he's trespassing.....did you miss that bit?

Haha what law? Trespassing is not breaking the law. It is not a crime. Even if you you want it to be it is not.

see link above.