It's a shame our laws are so constrictive, and our media are quick to twist and blow things out of proportion, but it's with those things in mind I'm *very* cautious about it, and prefer to err on the side of caution
Strategy and the black swan
Re: Strategy and the black swan
I agree.. I'm just very wary about having open discussions about it on an open forum. Posts can be misquoted and taken out of context, plus it can encourage the wrong kind of people to sign up here.
It's a shame our laws are so constrictive, and our media are quick to twist and blow things out of proportion, but it's with those things in mind I'm *very* cautious about it, and prefer to err on the side of caution
It's a shame our laws are so constrictive, and our media are quick to twist and blow things out of proportion, but it's with those things in mind I'm *very* cautious about it, and prefer to err on the side of caution
By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail - Benjamin Franklin
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Malamute Mitch
Re: Strategy and the black swan
Hi Scoobie , 7ps, et al
7ps interesting response, as I never mentioned “defending” a position, location or person (family or friend)
As ‘and this is my personal opinion’ if you try or prepare to try and 'defend,' you and your loved ones will more than lightly end up dead and in very unpleasant way.
To successfully defend a perimeter/location from a large hostile determined force is difficult enough, even with 6 to 8 men, with good skills base s and equipment, which if you or anyone else had they would not be on here. Macho bulls**t in a situation like that will get you and your loved ones killed.
The point of the post, was to place a thought in peoples minds, that they, will have to let loved ones die in order they may survive.
So that decisions like this are not faced for the first time under stress, in the heat of the moment, they should be thought about and talked through now and a realistic plan and strategy formed.
An example, I actually have elderly parents, who as much as I’ve tried to convince, do not feel they could leave their home. They now have supplies and plans for bugging in and live in a fairly rural area. So what happens if it turns nasty around them and a gang started breaking in, well first response from my father I’ll grab the machete and take a few of the buggers with me. So I asked him and what about mum then? Silence. So we talked about it and now they have a quiet peaceful exit plan. Not an easy thing to talk about.
This allows me, if the worst was to happen, to concentrate on the things I need to do to ensure the survival of my boys.
It also touches on ‘bugging in’ obviously some people have no other option but I am firmly of the opinion if society breaks down. People who have bugged in make themselves a target, who will be searched for and hunted. So the next question would be what gives me and my loved ones the best chance of survival.
7ps interesting response, as I never mentioned “defending” a position, location or person (family or friend)
As ‘and this is my personal opinion’ if you try or prepare to try and 'defend,' you and your loved ones will more than lightly end up dead and in very unpleasant way.
To successfully defend a perimeter/location from a large hostile determined force is difficult enough, even with 6 to 8 men, with good skills base s and equipment, which if you or anyone else had they would not be on here. Macho bulls**t in a situation like that will get you and your loved ones killed.
The point of the post, was to place a thought in peoples minds, that they, will have to let loved ones die in order they may survive.
So that decisions like this are not faced for the first time under stress, in the heat of the moment, they should be thought about and talked through now and a realistic plan and strategy formed.
An example, I actually have elderly parents, who as much as I’ve tried to convince, do not feel they could leave their home. They now have supplies and plans for bugging in and live in a fairly rural area. So what happens if it turns nasty around them and a gang started breaking in, well first response from my father I’ll grab the machete and take a few of the buggers with me. So I asked him and what about mum then? Silence. So we talked about it and now they have a quiet peaceful exit plan. Not an easy thing to talk about.
This allows me, if the worst was to happen, to concentrate on the things I need to do to ensure the survival of my boys.
It also touches on ‘bugging in’ obviously some people have no other option but I am firmly of the opinion if society breaks down. People who have bugged in make themselves a target, who will be searched for and hunted. So the next question would be what gives me and my loved ones the best chance of survival.
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wolfpup
Re: Strategy and the black swan
Mitch - I cannot comment on your last statement, however I do feel for your parents.
I am in a similar situation to your parents really, I have no close relatives (the nearest is nearly 300 miles away - my son, - I do not acknowledge the rest of the vermin [long story but justified believe me] ) BUT he lives with a disabled partner and an autistic son, so has his hands full and I would in no way try to land him with a couple of pensioners - he will have it all to do for his immediate concern (this would be his son by the way - not his partner).
I have left half of what cash I have with him - for him to use if the SHTF - in order to get supplies to last them a few months to try and give them a fighting chance (he thinks he is looking after it for me by the way). Unfortunately he is not 'on board' - another one who thinks I am a little 'eccentric' for thinking that our way of life will not continue 'as is'.
I would do anything to increase my son's (and therefore my grandson's) chances of survival. If it really comes to 'if push comes to shove' I would willingly give everything to ensure a place of safety for my family - not necessarily for me. I think this may be what your parents are thinking in their own miinds.
I am in a similar situation to your parents really, I have no close relatives (the nearest is nearly 300 miles away - my son, - I do not acknowledge the rest of the vermin [long story but justified believe me] ) BUT he lives with a disabled partner and an autistic son, so has his hands full and I would in no way try to land him with a couple of pensioners - he will have it all to do for his immediate concern (this would be his son by the way - not his partner).
I have left half of what cash I have with him - for him to use if the SHTF - in order to get supplies to last them a few months to try and give them a fighting chance (he thinks he is looking after it for me by the way). Unfortunately he is not 'on board' - another one who thinks I am a little 'eccentric' for thinking that our way of life will not continue 'as is'.
I would do anything to increase my son's (and therefore my grandson's) chances of survival. If it really comes to 'if push comes to shove' I would willingly give everything to ensure a place of safety for my family - not necessarily for me. I think this may be what your parents are thinking in their own miinds.