jennyjj01 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:45 pm
jansman wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:34 pm
jennyjj01 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:43 pm
Not saying it will be soon, but the clock is ticking. I think really 'we will see' in our lifetimes.
Agreed. Governments KNOW we won’t give up our lifestyle. That is why the placate us with their platitudes.
Like the start of the fall of the Roman Empire; Give the people bread and circuses.
Well Jansman, That's a cheery tone for the weekend. What's your estimate on timescale. 5, 10, 15, >20 years?
We could have a wager payable in Bitcoin
Back in Nov 2016, I would have wagered 4 years That's when I started prepping
I was happy to be wrong all that time. Long may I/we continue to be wrong.
No idea on the timescale.Not even a guess.However, it was reckoned by Gibbons,the historian who wrote about the decline of the Roman Empire that the decline to final end took about two hundred years. Because of internal dissent,and dwindling resources,the Romans couldn’t push any further forward. On top of that was the constant attack on it’s borders by the ‘Barbarians’ as Gibbons described them.Dwindling resources caused the Romans to gradually retreat back to Italy,and its dominions were left to fend for themselves.After living under Rome’s rather advanced and civilised rule ( if you forget slavery and the combat in the amphitheatre ), the former Roman world entered what we now know as The Dark Ages. From this point onwards,the world never really moved that far forward ,technologically, until we started to use coal.The use of fossil fuel has been likened to human slaves doing the work.Coal,then oil, freed us from the hand-to-mouth,subsistence farming that sustained us up until the Industrial Revolution. You only have to look at under developed countries in Africa,whose populations survive upon subsistence farming.
For these nations,there is no time beyond basic survival,to get an education,then specialise,industrialise and lift themselves to our living standards.They never will. Our own standards will start to fall,and the end game will be ( ultimately) subsistence economies,as resources dwindle.
Covid-19 caused the Global Economy to effectively shut down.Those in ‘Good Jobs’, earning a reasonable wage,able to work from home,continued to do ok. Those in hospitality,retail ( and those ‘Hero’ supermarket workers are now being pared back), the ‘Gig’ economy, became noticed for their vulnerability within the modern economy. The Haves and Have nots ,if you will.Minimum wage workers,struggling to get by. A subsistence economy within our ‘developed ‘ economy.
The decline has already started .
In three words I can sum up everything I have learned about life: It goes on.
Robert Frost.
Covid 19: After that level of weirdness ,any situation is certainly possible.
Me.