Feeding the masses

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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by jansman » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:25 pm

Culture plays a big part in this. The Hindu would not dream of eating beef, the Jew or Muslim pork. The ‘insect diet’ ain’t for this rural Englishman.
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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by grenfell » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:52 pm

No association with him other than via re-enactment but a guy called Martin Crowley (http://cowleysfinefoods.co.uk ) sells jerky and the like and at one point was selling jellied sweets with insects inside visible through the jelly. I can't quite remember what insects they contained although something like a small scorpion seems to ring a bell. I did try some even if it was just for the novelty . To be honest any insect flavour was probably masked as far as I can remember . As he doesn't sell them now and hasn't ffor some time I think would rather say to me that they were hardly his best seller.

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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by Deeps » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:48 pm

jansman wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:25 pm
Culture plays a big part in this. The Hindu would not dream of eating beef, the Jew or Muslim pork. The ‘insect diet’ ain’t for this rural Englishman.
Yup, we're brought up to eat certain things and turn our nose up at others. I've eaten all sorts 'just cos', even just to show off to mates when younger but I'm pretty traditional really and bugs would be down the list.

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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by Arzosah » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:29 pm

:lol: I'm the one that brought them in, and *I* wouldn't eat them - not unless my life was at steak (see what I did there? :mrgreen: ). I mean, I don't even eat meat! And yes, its definitely cultural: the culture we're brought up in, and the culture we choose, which are sometimes different (I certainly wasn't brought up vegetarian).
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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by Stonecarver » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:32 pm

A lot of people keep saying they cant imagine food shortages happening here. A few years ago I remember the weather forecast showing the entire British mainland all white covered in snow. If it had lasted for any length of time we would have had big problems.
Jansman can you provide details on how much stores you go through feeding those 500 daily. If you are allowed that is, not commercial secret.
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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by jansman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:11 am

Stonecarver wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:32 pm
A lot of people keep saying they cant imagine food shortages happening here. A few years ago I remember the weather forecast showing the entire British mainland all white covered in snow. If it had lasted for any length of time we would have had big problems.
Jansman can you provide details on how much stores you go through feeding those 500 daily. If you are allowed that is, not commercial secret.
That is 500 minimum.That doesn't include fresh meat sales,or otc bread sales.As a snapshot example to cover 5 days:

1,500 lb pork sausage
1,000lb bacon products
300lb beef topsides
150lb turkey breasts
150lb pork legs
1 pallet each of tomatoes,baked beans,tuna ( catering tins)
1 case dehydrate potatoes
1 sack each of rice and pasta
200lb minimum diced chicken breast ( this I know ,' cos I do it!)
2 pallets of bread flour
5 huge daily delivery of fruit and veg.
Gallons of milk

Then there are the dry goods,cases of pop and water,tea ,coffee,packaging,cleaning materials etc.etc. AND an electric bill that would make your hair fall out!

That list only scratches the surface.
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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by Arzosah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:09 am

Wow, thats an eye opener.
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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by jansman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:34 pm

Arzosah wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:09 am
Wow, thats an eye opener.
We sell many products, and variations therein. Last year we sold 67,000 plain sausage cobs ALONE ( baps or rolls to anyone outside of the East Midlands :lol: ). Forget everything else.

And that is just us.

That is why I am sceptical of plans for mass feeding in an emergency. Food business, whether they sell the primary products or the tertiary ready-to-eat foods, need the Just In Time System. They cannot physically, nor financially, hold any spare capacity.
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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by Stonecarver » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:07 pm

That is a LOT :o
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Re: Feeding the masses

Post by Stonecarver » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:09 pm

Is that per month Jansman or DAILY
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