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Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:19 pm
by jansman
I am looking at a Lifestraw filter for my ghb.I currently have a Sawyer mini in there.I am always looking to lose weight.I notice a lot of Chinese knock offs too.comments?

Re: Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:10 pm
by peejay
Hmm, something like that isn't one of things I'd personally trust to a knock-off, especially one from so far away (little chance of recourse). Water is one of the few things that I'd rather invest in the "gold standard" quality TBH. Almost anything else can make do with cheap-as-chips without such a potentially life threatening risk...

Re: Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:28 pm
by Deeps
peejay wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:10 pm Hmm, something like that isn't one of things I'd personally trust to a knock-off, especially one from so far away (little chance of recourse). Water is one of the few things that I'd rather invest in the "gold standard" quality TBH. Almost anything else can make do with cheap-as-chips without such a potentially life threatening risk...
How I see it too. I've got a fair bit of stuff over the years from China, probably plenty other places too, some things I'll try and get the best I can and water purification is one of those. I've got a wee pouch which I put in whatever bag I'm taking, ghb or hill walking bag and it has a millbank bag, puritabs (25L and 1L), a couple of big plastic bags with 1L and 2L marked off and of course..... a Sawyer, collapsible water bladder and back flush. I've got a bottle that purifies too and its 'nice' but lacks the versatility (and 100,000 gallons or whatever that Sawyer promise).

If you're trying to save space and weight Jansman, leave the backflush behind. I've been assured (not tried it myself) that it will be fine for a few days without backflushing, you're left with the ickliest water filter you can get then, they even fit pop bottles which you can find wherever.

Re: Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:48 pm
by jansman
The way I thought too Deeps. I had a bad case of shoots in Belize a couple of lifetimes ago!

Re: Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:19 pm
by Deeps
jansman wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:48 pm The way I thought too Deeps. I had a bad case of shoots in Belize a couple of lifetimes ago!
Belize wasn't on my career horizon (thankfully) but I've a pongo mate who was there a few times, yeah, skitters, leaches, all sorts of nasty stuff. I've learned how to use moss and charcoal to make a filter but by preference, I'll take an off the shelf job with a guarantee thingumy for water if I can get it.
The water bottles with a built in filter are good in some respects, less dicking around than with the Sawyer for a straight forward drink but for me not enough to compromise, that I have a few Sawyers maybe makes me prejudiced slightly. For a 'pocket' filter though I struggle to get past the Sawyer mini and a collapsible bag for it, you don't need the straw or back flush if its for a few days I guess. Again, not tried it but keep promising myself I will although I rarely use the filter up here anyway. If I'm hillwalking there's usually plenty run off and I usually like to carry a couple litres anyway. If I'm camping away from a water source (I have a great wee site for wild camping that I keep going back to) then its usually not a big deal to carry that bit more water.

Re: Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:29 pm
by peejay
Likewise I have three sawyer minis now (car, caravan, bag is the general idea) but haven't actually had cause to use one of them yet.

I have the collapsible bottle that come with them, plus I have a stash of similar collapsible bottles I got in poundland last summer (been watching for them this year but not found any).

I also have a couple of Water-to-Go bottles. I think going via sawyer to w2g bottle should be pretty damn sparkling I reckon!

Think I'll add a millbank bag too as a pre-filter can't hurt at all. Currently have one languishing in my amazon basket...

Re: Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:44 pm
by Deeps
peejay wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:29 pm Likewise I have three sawyer minis now (car, caravan, bag is the general idea) but haven't actually had cause to use one of them yet.

I have the collapsible bottle that come with them, plus I have a stash of similar collapsible bottles I got in poundland last summer (been watching for them this year but not found any).

I also have a couple of Water-to-Go bottles. I think going via sawyer to w2g bottle should be pretty damn sparkling I reckon!

Think I'll add a millbank bag too as a pre-filter can't hurt at all. Currently have one languishing in my amazon basket...
I've ended up using the Sawyer mini (and backflush) basically 'just cos', I'd rather have a play as it were. The places I hill walk the water is lovely and while I know I'm supposed to filter it, I've not bothered in the 35 years or so that I've been going. Apart from having a play for the sake of it. :lol:
I've not tried the filter with a muddy puddle or the like, I probably should.

Its the same with the millbank bag if I'm being honest, I've 'played' but not used them in anger in somewhere that requires any serious filtering. It still gives you a feel for things though.

Re: Lifestraws and generic versions

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:07 pm
by peejay
I'm similar to be totally honest as my treks to the great outdoors always revolve around the caravan although I'm getting the urge to join a friend on some proper walking with a bit of subtle wild camping so always have this in mind with anything I look at these days (e.g. lightweight gear etc.)