Prepping for everything but a heart attack

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Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby pseudonym » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:48 am

The thing with smoking/NHS stats can be skewed,

We know its bad for us, leading to death but the NHS love using it for a catch all.

A man was admitted to the Cardiac ward next bed to me, with irregular heart beat. He was asked a plethora of questions the seventh or eight started this:

DR: Have you smoked?

Man: Yes but for only 6 months.

DR: when did you give up?

Man: 1942 (The year not time)

DR: OK but how many did you smoke?

See what I mean? Must tick all the boxes.

Probably reported as a 6 month smoker on 10 a day.... :roll: left out the bit about being in a tank or down the mines throughout the war years.... :mrgreen:
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Re: Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby Arzosah » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:43 am

Massive War monkey wrote:Cant help noticing how on the forums /youtubers/ gatherings i see Uk preppers seem to be prepping for everything but a heart attack /type 2 diabetes .
I think this is a seriously neglected area of prepping..its all very well having 20 years worth of pot noodles and baked beans but if your bodies trashed from a crap diet and lack of exercise you wont fare too well in a post SHTF post NHS world !

Your basic point, that health isn't paid the attention it deserves, is true, I think, but I challenge lumping pot noodles and baked beans together, you're not doing your point a favour. The "false food" and chemical crap in pot noodles is no comparison to baked beans - in a tin, you'll find 90% is beans, and a good proportion of the rest is tomato. Some food cupboard stores are fine - but others are practically toxins, and really will trash your body, as you say.

For years i neglected this myself until i woke up an realised the biggest threat to me and the family was not a nuclear apocalypse but me ending up like my old man dropping dead of a heart attack in my 50's...this could have devastating consequences for the mrs and my two little ones not just emotionally but financially so i took it upon myself to start tranining.

Of course. You'll find very few people on here prepping for a nuclear apocalypse. I'm sorry you lost your dad at such a young age.

I joined a budget gym..which isnt even necessary but a bit more of a hobby . My training consists of a bit of light cardio.. roughly 1 mile on the treadmill at jogging pace 6 times a week / and the rest general strength training with weights.Its made a huge difference to me both pyhsically and mentally ..im slowly increasing the intensity week by week and cant recommed it enough to everyone..

A bit of a hobby is the way to go :D good for you. Though its not for everyone, one size rarely fits all.

Intresting to hear other peoples opinions / routines

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Re: Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby xplosiv1 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:58 pm

I thought about the whole health aspect of prepping a while back, kicked the fags 12 months ago cold turkey, wasn't easy but I can notice the difference even though by any standards I would have been classed as a light/social smoker. I have tried in the past but never lasted more than a week or two I guess this time it stuck because I was making a conscious decision for myself rather than trying to appease the nagging of others for me to stop smoking.
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Re: Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby Deeps » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:55 pm

Sorry folks, was trying to move the thread from the 'New Joiners' section to Medical and Healthcare and made a bollox of it. Hopefully that's it done now.

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Re: Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby Jamesey1981 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:01 pm

I was wondering why it got split in half!
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Re: Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby Deeps » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:34 pm

Jamesey1981 wrote:I was wondering why it got split in half!


Cos I's stoopid. :oops:

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Re: Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby Arzosah » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:06 am

xplosiv1 wrote:I thought about the whole health aspect of prepping a while back, kicked the fags 12 months ago cold turkey, wasn't easy but I can notice the difference even though by any standards I would have been classed as a light/social smoker. I have tried in the past but never lasted more than a week or two I guess this time it stuck because I was making a conscious decision for myself rather than trying to appease the nagging of others for me to stop smoking.

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Re: Prepping for everything but a heart attack

Postby ParamedicPrepper » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:35 pm

Health education is crap in the UK. Crap food and lack of exercise cause most of these issues but I have seen otherwise fit and healthy 45 year olds having a heart attack.
Im not sure the aspirin will fix the heart attack but will go some way to stop further damage. Aspirin is always given in combination with Glyceryl Trinitrate Spray (which can be found over the counter in pharmacies) depending on blood pressure and other obs. I think learning the difference between angina, unstable angina, non STEMI and STEMI is a must. You dont need to go in depth with ECG findings but many people who have the ‘big heart attack’ or usually the NSTEMI/STEMI have had some symptoms of angina over the preceding few months, with many more saying they have been freling unwell/odd the week before. It helps us be a little more in tune with the body and recognise subtle changes and not just the typical crushing chest pain.

People gonto bed with heart attacks thinking ots indigestion and wake up the next day feeling ok. But then have unrepairable damage to the heart and can be in some weird arythmias afterwards or just get short of breath and have their ankles start filling with fluid as they now have the begginjngs of heart failure due to the damage. People paint the picture that abheart attack means crushing chest pain and dead two minutes later, very few present like that.

Aspirin and GTN is good to keep about but just be aware not to give GTN in blood pressure is beliw 100/ something as that will most probably make them pass out and at worst kill them.

Be in tune with your body and know the subtle signs as the big signs are obvious and generally unmistakable

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