Bolt cutters or?

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TDFPTAH
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Bolt cutters or?

Post by TDFPTAH » Sun May 20, 2018 1:38 pm

Hi,

I'm toying with getting some bolt cutters and wondered what your thoughts are. Would you carry them in your BOB of are they too heavy? Do you have an alternative?

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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by jansman » Sun May 20, 2018 1:43 pm

Bolt cutters are a useful tool. Carrying them in a BOB would be heavy. It could also lead you to having your ‘collar felt’ by the law, as in the wrong environment you could be in trouble for “ Going equipped”.

I won’t ask why you would want them in your bag, but please be aware that the forum stays on the right side of U.K. laws.
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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by TDFPTAH » Sun May 20, 2018 2:00 pm

Thanks for the Steer Jansman. Just playing with ideas.

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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by Deeps » Sun May 20, 2018 2:53 pm

I have bolt cutters, will be taking them up the hills next weekend as it happens, helping a mate doing some repair work on a bothy and he thinks we'll need them. This will be the first time they've been anywhere though. Only you will know if you think you'll need bolt cutters as part of your 'bug out bag', if you think you'd need them then take them, bearing in mind Jansman's warning above. Same with lockpicks etc, some preppers seem to want them but you could end up in the brown stuff pretty easily, you have to ask if its worth it.

Saying that, I don't have a 'BOB', a lot of the stuff that I would put in one in the 'classic' run to the hills scenario I use for other things like hill walking, camping etc, even the bag(s) themselves.There's no one right way to prep, whatever works for you mate.

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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by Yorkshire Andy » Sun May 20, 2018 7:23 pm

Bolt cutters only good for cutting mild steel upto max jaw size...

Decent hacksaw with hss blade and a carbide rod blade will cut far more things
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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by Drcamburn » Sun May 20, 2018 9:07 pm

Really it would depend on your individual plan post SHTF. Like every 'Do I need item X?'

If you were sheltering in place, then assuming you have the money to buy some and somewhere to put them it's more helpful to have an item than not have it. Hence why I own a pair.

However, if you are intent on bugging out it would depend on where you were thinking of heading too, and whether you actually made it there. For example, you wouldn't need to take bolt cutters to bug out at the local woodland as there'd be little to cut open with them. However for obvious reasons in other places they could be very handy.

In terms of other objects that do the same job, the bolt cutters would win it for me due to cutting speed and sound produced. Bolt cutters are much quicker at cutting through padlocks and chains and quieter too. In terms of job efficiency, if I had to cut the lock off my shed, I'd rather use the bolt cutters to do it quickly and easily. As opposed to messing about with a hacksaw, you see bailiffs, emergency services, and soldiers all use them.
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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by dazthechippy » Mon May 21, 2018 12:25 pm

i saw a chap on telly use a pair to liberate a 2 wheeled pedal powered escape vehicle to get out of the city - it was part of a practice drill and had been left in situ by a friend who was in on it..it wasnt a big hefty bikelock like you see here in London or wherever.

think it was an american show, people practiced their drills..normal lessons learned type thing.

what was impressive was he was on it and away in like sub 10 seconds and it looked like he was the owner unlocking it, not suspicious at all, flimsy lock though..

However, they're heavy and not very plod friendly if you get caught with them.

ive got some in various sizes but they stay in the garage..

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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by Yorkshire Andy » Mon May 21, 2018 9:04 pm

Drcamburn wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 9:07 pm
if I had to cut the lock off my shed, I'd rather use the bolt cutters to do it quickly and easily. As opposed to messing about with a hacksaw, you see bailiffs, emergency services, and soldiers all use them.
Time to replace your padlock and hasp then ;)

I fitted a closed shackle and hasp to prevent a easy job for the local scrotes

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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by grenfell » Mon May 21, 2018 9:50 pm

I've got those fitted to my van and recently had some one try to get in to it. There were clear signs where they'd forced a crowbar into the door/body gap and also where they had tried the same with that lock. Thankfully the lock sufficed although it was bloody irritating . A Facebook group I'm in has shown pictures of vans that have been peeled i.e. The doors bent downwards and also others where the panels have been cut open with a cordless angle grinder which seems to be becoming another tool in criminals arsenal where noise isn't a problem. As it is lidl are selling a cordless angle grinder for less that £30 this week.

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Re: Bolt cutters or?

Post by Scottish-prepper » Sun May 27, 2018 10:27 pm

I have a set of bolt cutters. I don’t keep them in my ghb/bob in the boot of my car in case I get stopped by the police and searched but if I was bugging out for real, I’d definitely be taking them.

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